View Poll Results: Why did leave WBCCI ?
Cost too much 13 15.85%
Not enough value for the membership fee 23 28.05%
Too many rules 31 37.80%
I don't need to belong to group to enjoy camping 29 35.37%
Bad experience 15 18.29%
Other reason(s) 19 23.17%
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Old 08-19-2015, 04:30 AM   #61
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Membership is not dropping.
Perhaps the OP was referring to these numbers... Hopefully this past International turns this around...
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Old 08-19-2015, 09:20 AM   #62
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We joined to attend a rally ... met many really nice folks, but decided that it was not really for us. Then, we were coerced by leadership to join again in order to attend a regional rally ... ugghh. The people are great for the most part, but the organization is not for everyone... a bit stratified and socially focused.
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Old 08-19-2015, 09:30 AM   #63
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We joined to attend a rally ... met many really nice folks, but decided that it was not really for us. Then, we were coerced by leadership to join again in order to attend a regional rally ... ugghh. The people are great for the most part, but the organization is not for everyone... a bit stratified and socially focused.
Interesting comments. I think we are sort of feeling the same as far as the group being stratified and socially focused.
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Then, we were coerced by leadership to join again in order to attend a regional rally ... ugghh.
You'll have to explain that one to me. How can someone be coerced into joining? "Join WBCCI or we'll release these photographs of your last camping trip to the Internet"?
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Old 08-19-2015, 10:16 AM   #65
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You'll have to explain that one to me. How can someone be coerced into joining? "Join WBCCI or we'll release these photographs of your last camping trip to the Internet"?
Your answer is in a PM ...
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Old 08-19-2015, 10:46 AM   #66
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Your answer is in a PM ...
And it makes perfect sense how they were able to coerce you.
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Old 08-19-2015, 10:53 AM   #67
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Ok,
So call me stupid.
Buy why are there so many threads on the WBCCI here?
Why don't people who like joining things join.
And let the people who don't like to join things do their own thing.
Why do WB members seem to go out of their way to make the club seem like it's so much fun?
Maybe it is fun. Maybe it's more fun than having an orgasm at Disneyland. Maybe each and every rally is an epiphany. Maybe every meal is a banquet.
But...
Why do members try so hard to recruit everyone.
Why do they need/want more members?
Is it because the meetings are actually boring and they are hoping more members will make it fun?
Every time the WB comes up here there is always a lot of arguing about everything.
People rehashing gripes, people bashing management. And others saying they're wrong and it's better now.
Again, call me stupid, but who cares if you join?
Who cares if you didn't join?
Who cares if you joined and quit - for whatever reason - maybe didn't get your free orgasm at Disneyland or you didn't like their recycling policy or you think everyone in the club has bromadrosis AND halitosis.
Sheesh.
Why can't the joiners join, the quitters quit and the non joiners just go off and have a nice glass of of merlot?
Why do we have to hash it out all the time?
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Ok,
So call me stupid.
No, thanks. Won't do that.
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But why are there so many threads on the WBCCI here?
If it's troublesome for you, you can "Ignore" the entire WBCCI Forum and the WBCCI Rallies & Events sub-forum in the Rally Zone, and then you'll never have to read another post in the never-ending debate. They won't even show up on your screen.

Although "Ignoring" a forum, or a thread in that forum, doesn't get rid of your subscriptions to any thread you've already posted in. So you'll also have to unsubscribe to any threads concerning WBCCI that you've already posted in, including this one.

I did that with "Friends of Dorothy" and other sub-forums that don't interest me, and now there are a whole lot fewer items in my inbox that I'd never read anyway. Makes using the AirForums a much easier and more pleasant experience.
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Old 08-19-2015, 11:15 AM   #69
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No, thanks. Won't do that.If it's troublesome for you, you can "Ignore" the entire WBCCI Forum and the WBCCI Rallies & Events sub-forum in the Rally Zone, and then you'll never have to read another post in the never-ending debate. They won't even show up on your screen.

Although "Ignoring" a forum, or a thread in that forum, doesn't get rid of your subscriptions to any thread you've already posted in. So you'll also have to unsubscribe to any threads concerning WBCCI that you've already posted in, including this one.

I did that with "Friends of Dorothy" and other sub-forums that don't interest me, and now there are a whole lot fewer items in my inbox that I'd never read anyway. Makes using the AirForums a much easier and more pleasant experience.
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It was a rhetorical question.
I understand the workings of the forum - ignoring, unsubscribing, etc.
Been here for 10 years or more.
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Old 08-19-2015, 11:20 AM   #70
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Agree with Ultradog. !!!!!!!!!!!!Three or more current threads all digressing at some point to bashing and calling it "imo" or "imho".

Protag you were trying to gain some knowledge in order to lead more effectively. But if no one reads the original post kind if hard to stay on point.
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Old 08-19-2015, 11:33 AM   #71
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As a founding president and current member of a WBCCI member, Let me give you my opinion!

I'll ask you once to consider joining. If you don't, I'll be disappointed, then I'll probably have another beer with you.

In the end, I hope you would consider the WBCCI, but if not, no big deal. No skin off my back.

Now if you CONTINUALLY throw the subject in my face and bad mouth the WBCCI, I'm probably going to step up and defend the club. Or, I might not give a crap and I'll move my chair at the campfire.

Ever notice that a large amount of folks that argue about the WBCCI are not members but still insist on stirring the pot? I think a lot of them just like seeing their names on the forums.

Also, I really never though it would happen to me, but I browse these forums less and less. I use to read it every morning and after dinner. Now, I just casually click over here now and then.
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Old 08-19-2015, 12:05 PM   #72
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Keeping to the Question

We left WBCCI not because the members but because of the rules, rules and more rules; the formal requirements, ties, hats, dressing up while camping in a parking lot was not our idea of fun. We still work and I don't want to dress up on while camping on my days off.

I think poor Wally intended WBCCI to be about enjoying his trailers (and creating a desire to own one!). Not sure that is how WBCCI functions now. Wally was really ahead of his time with product promotion by creating the WBCCI. Today, WBCCI itself seem to have lost that focus. The fact that the caravans are often sold out really shows WBCCI's strength. It would be interesting to see how much of the WBCCI leadership as actually lead a caravan! Other enthusiasts have gotten ahead of both WBCCI and Airstream with this forum, other magazines, and new media. I wonder if Wally would have had the foresight to see the value and leverage them for the WBCCI. Wonder when and how he would have incorporated these into the business and the club.

I wish success on WBCCI and hope that the club changes with the times. I hope that WBCCI utilizes a potentially untapped resource (the children of the membership) to help keep WBCCI relevant with the younger generation. One day I hope I will become interested again in joining WBCCI while enjoying my Airstream and camping.

I wish all the best to the new WBCCI President and the First Lady, and will not try to read anything into a few words he writes in a letter to the club. I am sure he will make people upset but will hopefully make positive changes to help the WBCCI. Change is hard but required to keep WBCCI relevant!

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My unit, NOVA, has one rule. We don't discuss business on campouts.

I guess we do have other rules. Be sure to leave the corkscrew on the picnic table and don't knock on trailer doors that have a sock on them....... (long story)

Formal wear for us means wearing your good flip flops to dinner.
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So you require flipflops! What about bare feet.?
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So you require flipflops! What about bare feet.?
Rules are one thing, standards are another!

No one wants to see some sausage toe old guy feet while enjoying a sloppy joe and a bud light.
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I guess my standards are pretty low. Your group sure seems like a fun bunch! On edit, haven't seen my toes since I grew my beard.
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I haven't seen my toes since the previously mentioned sloppy joes......
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Old 08-19-2015, 03:28 PM   #78
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I find all this fascinating, in a bad way. We are soon buying our first Airstream. Seen the red numbers for years but had no idea so much would be involved with deciding if I wanted them or not. On the surface, seems so obviously interesting and fun to take the family out for the weekend in Airstream and hang out with a bunch of fellow Airstreamers. Naive perhaps, as it sounds far more complicated than I would have imagined.


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Dan it can be either. Difficult or easy.

Take all the back and forth in these threads with a grain of salt.

If you join you get your red numbers and you can participate or not in any functions.

We joined out of tradition and the history. We have our red numbers (although not on yet) and joined a local Unit for occasional camping comraderie.

It really is that easy.
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That appeals to us as well, tradition, history, and camaraderie. But with the rigidity and negativity (broadly speaking) I've seen mentioned on countless old threads, and now this one, I'm hesitant to take my small kids and wife to any WBCCI Rally, event, etc.

Sounds more like an organization for folks with one foot in the grave based on reports here. Somehow thinking structure equates to purpose. Or does that structure simply take away the energy required to be creative and adaptable? The purpose in camping is to have fun. Well, to me at any rate.

Activities for kids (that they actually enjoy), lawn games like horse shoe contest with cold beer in early afternoon with a little classic rock in background, a pig pickin, a fish fry, some live music on Sat night, that sounds fun.

Watermelon contest and water guns and slip n slides around the lawn for the kids. They could run parallel corn hole competitions near parents at time of horse shoe contests.

Themed nights regarding music such as beach music (shag dancing), country/bluegrass, and Motown, stuff that crosses generations and endures.

Some adult, older adult, activities of course as well. Participating members should be choosing said activities and voting on a thread/poll here prior to each event. Something for everyone is all I'm suggesting. Our 'real' life offers all the structure and rigidity we can stand.

Hopefully I'm misguided, but I have not read anything that suggest WBCCI does anything to attract, nor retain, young families like ours. Might revisit this idea later if any reason to join surfaces. At the moment, a reason for us to join appears a white elephant.


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