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06-28-2010, 08:01 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 23' International CCD
Lapeer
, Michigan
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,082
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WBCCI Simulcast Live Mon June 28 8:00 a.m. MT
8:00 a.m. MT or 10:00 ET
http://WBCCI.primcast.com/WBCCI
Windows Media Player
It is time kids! Don't forget your decoder rings.
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06-28-2010, 08:13 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 23' International CCD
Lapeer
, Michigan
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,082
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Prayer
Pledge
Roll call of the Executive Committee (EC7)
president's reports...none
treasurer's report...none
other officers' reports...none
no unfinished business
no new business
no announcements
no objections the meeting is adjourned
15 minutes and the regular IBT meeting will start after the rest of the IBT are seated
2 minute warning...8:16
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06-28-2010, 08:16 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 18,086
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Thanks for the info, Carol.
Please post info updates as you can, we are going to be gone to doctor and dentist appointments out of town today.
Maggie
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🏡 🚐 Cherish and appreciate those you love. This moment could be your last.🌹🐚
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06-28-2010, 08:36 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 23' International CCD
Lapeer
, Michigan
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,082
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Prayer
Pledge of USA, afterward stand for a moment of silence for other countries
Roll
Larry Huttle, Bob Moyers absenDon Rogers absent Regions 5 and 7 are absent
region 5 1st vp
region 7 1st VP moveup into voting position
Quarem is present
3 minutes per speaker 30 minutes to subject all comments must be germaine
Presidents report
financial and unrest difficulties
1. Membership loss percentage is less than previous two years. We are still losing members. This year 126 non renewals
2. to balance the budget officers travel expenses were cut 25% and 10% and dues increased along with cutting ofexpenses we expect balanced budget next year
3. recruitment of members
Some motions may be contentious and ask that we work together
Treasurer report assets 1,950,000 (approx)
Standing committee reports...
additions to the reports only...
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06-28-2010, 09:04 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2004 34' Classic S/O
Brooksville
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 195
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I'm apparently signed on but have no audio, using Safari w/Flip4Mac
ideas?
Dan
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06-28-2010, 09:14 AM
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Rivet Master
1998 31' Excella 1000
1979 23' Safari
Mooresville
, Indiana
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 598
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I'm using a mac and Flip4Mac, just start up Quicktime and open the url in QT and you should be good to go.
Damon
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06-28-2010, 09:14 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 23' International CCD
Lapeer
, Michigan
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,082
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unit caravans santion
action: Motion 5 and 5A amendment to sanction unit caravans listed and numbered in directory Doug Wiley, Jerry Larson respectfully. Numbered caravan criteria is not being changed the addition of unit caravan recognition is being added.
(5)criteria
7 nights 5 stops 7 units kitty fee
(5A)non numbered will be listed in the directory as uc unit caravan, subsequent caravans during the same year will be listed with subsequent letters, b, c, etc., such as UC 09 B
all unit caravans approved by unit president will be sanctioned no constraints or restrictions in 5A
Strike the kitty fee for unit caravans discussions...updating the hand book necessary
Motion 5 is withdrawn
Discussion on Revised Motion 5A... multiple caravans from multiple units need a different listing...code may need to add unit code...extent complicated and book will get too large.
Vote to replace 5 with 5A---motion failed? Point of order stand by... majority to amend the parlimentarian says, still failed.
Revised motion 5 for discussion concept is good but wont approve it as it stands...brought to committee and brought back later in January with a full understanding of what the region wants and to be done in a logical manner. Doug Wiley says committee is against it and that wont work. Region 2 says the committee made 5A is foolish to send it back to committee.
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06-28-2010, 09:27 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 23' International CCD
Lapeer
, Michigan
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,082
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unit caravan con'd
Jerry Larson wants to send it back to all the units and do they prefer other option and reinvestigation of units. Region 3 says conflict of interest costs money put in book. D.W. says 11 of 12 units in region 9 want this. Want 2020 report to give recognition but without cost. Too much overhead...not just caravans but across the board. Recognition, everybody is getting it, badges flags, numbers, etc.
vote on voting on this question--passes
vote on revised motion 5 as written--8 yes 10 nos no abstentions-- motion does not pass
J.Clemens Region 3 wants financial report from caravan committee. Not in bylaws
Well there you have two years in a row shot down!!!! 1st time through IBT 2nd from majority of region. It costs too much for members to get recognition for a unit caravan, they prefer to only honor the same criteria for numbered caravans.
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06-28-2010, 09:30 AM
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Rivet Master
1970 23' Safari
2005 30' Classic
1986 31' Sovereign
Lorain
, Ohio
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,645
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We passed! NOVA
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06-28-2010, 09:31 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 23' International CCD
Lapeer
, Michigan
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,082
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NOVA meets criteria
vote and passes 18-0
thank you to Cindy and Darrel for much help in working through this by Mr. Turner and he sends congrats to DanB, brand new unit president!
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06-28-2010, 09:36 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 27' Flying Cloud
Viera
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,296
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You have to respect the Caravan Committee's desire not to increase the overhead. We're all volunteers here and the people that do the work need to buy in to the work before it will work. I also wouldn't want anything passed that increased cost no matter how much.
Also, there's too much recognition now in this outfit. It's not needed. We do this for the fun, not to get another ribbon, wear a red coat, three digit number, etc.
Randy
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Randy & Pat Godfrey
Florida Airstream Club (027)
ACI# 1212 - AIR# 17017
2014 27FB Flying Cloud - SilverCabin II
2018 F-150 Platinum - unnamed
The best part of any trip is when you pull away from home.
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06-28-2010, 09:37 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 27' Flying Cloud
Viera
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,296
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DanB
We passed! NOVA
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Congrats Dan! Now the fun begins.
Randy
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Randy & Pat Godfrey
Florida Airstream Club (027)
ACI# 1212 - AIR# 17017
2014 27FB Flying Cloud - SilverCabin II
2018 F-150 Platinum - unnamed
The best part of any trip is when you pull away from home.
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06-28-2010, 09:37 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2004 34' Classic S/O
Brooksville
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 195
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used Safari and it opened fine.
Carol, video skype me at the break if you want.......or anyone else.
skype name: DFDureiko
Dan
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06-28-2010, 09:38 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 23' International CCD
Lapeer
, Michigan
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,082
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addendum ethics and grievances: 5 total 2 dismissed 1 dismissed 1 complaint didn't meet criteria, 1 was resolved with a written apology, 2 against same member, one case involved probation, expulsion, appealed, upheld, nothing outstanding.
comment $29,000 spent on grievances is there a breakdown on how much was spent on various grievances, info left at office, will try to locate it on break.
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06-28-2010, 10:15 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 23' International CCD
Lapeer
, Michigan
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,082
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Don Clark lifetime membership report bal $181,578.05
1. motion for table for calculation of 2008 be replaced with 2010 because of lower investment returns and higher dues.
Vote 18-0-0 motion passes
2. Franklin Sanders amend bylaws for available returns... mutual funds, investments, etc.
Vote 14-4-0 Passes
3. Short term investments- F. Sanders- amend certificates to certificates of deposit, treasurer may invest monies of the club in mutual funds, etc. interest bearing accounts, authorization to invest in securities, US treasury securities, avoiding high service fees and expenses, increase investment returns and flexibility and lower risk.
Joe Bublus letter: consider risk by allowing mutual funds, there is no specifications for treasurer.
Jerry Larson discussion higher interest is good but lose insurance is it worth it what would be the return. Janie L. opposes the risk and agrees with JoeBbublus June Ryan doesn't want to take the riskNorm Beu How much risk are we talking about F.Sanders responds
(note) I'm with Janie L., F.Sanders knows his stuff but hard to follow for some, like me too.
comment: F.Sanders is thanked for making his long and fast answer perfectly clear... laughter follows.
another comment and goes back to F.Sanders for a "short" answer instructs the IP.
Vote fails
Coffee break until 10:30
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06-28-2010, 10:18 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2004 34' Classic S/O
Brooksville
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 195
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I'm not seeing anywhere on wbcci.org that the Delegates Meeting is streamed. Seems it ought to be. Am I missing something?
Dan
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06-28-2010, 10:31 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2004 34' Classic S/O
Brooksville
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 195
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but again, there is no meantion of the Delegates meeting on Wed the 30th....
only meantions 26th 28th and 5th
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06-28-2010, 10:31 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 23' International CCD
Lapeer
, Michigan
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,082
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I don't see the delegates meeting listed.
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06-28-2010, 10:39 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2004 34' Classic S/O
Brooksville
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 195
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i guess they finally realized the mike was on
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