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Old 12-25-2005, 11:51 PM   #221
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"All politics is local..."

Joe et al -

"All politics is local" - Mayor Richard J. Daley - Chicago. And probably someone before him...

Am also following this thread for any new bits, info and news, but have decided that posting to this and other threads in the same vein is, for me, just so much more turbulent air that, while illuminating and exhilerating, do little to drive the process forward where the 'rubber meets the road' - AS metaphor there!

Putting my energy into getting the local politics to reflect my slant. That is where the energy is evidently needed, accross the WBCCI (or whatever it will be).

"All politics is local" - from there it percolates up and ???? Process and bylaws decree that that is where it starts, and possibly ends.

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Old 12-26-2005, 07:10 AM   #222
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I have just been informed by my super-secret inside source (Deep Hitch) at WBCCI that the new club name will be:

The Airstream Owners Association International Formerly Known As The Wally Byam Caravan Club International.

Club leaders are hopeful that the new name, which artfully includes "Airstream" and "Wally Byam", will satisfy both camps ... and bring this incessant carping and whining to an end.

Also, they do realize the new name is quite a mouthful, so they are suggesting we just call the club ... TAOAIFKATWBCCI.

Unit presidents are urging all TAOAIFKATWBCCI members to pull together and get back to the important business of the club ... checking tire pressures and battery water levels.
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Old 12-26-2005, 09:14 AM   #223
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Putting my energy into getting the local politics to reflect my slant. That is where the energy is evidently needed, accross the WBCCI (or whatever it will be).

Axel
Alright, so I lied about not posting any more on this topic.

I have already started and will continue to try to influence the decision at my local Unit and Region level as well, because I also realize that these Forums, while a good way to exchange ideas, don't have any direct influence on the "powers that be" in the WBCCI.
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Old 12-28-2005, 04:56 PM   #224
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the new club name will be:
The Airstream Owners Association International Formerly Known As The Wally Byam Caravan Club International...they are suggesting we just call the club ... TAOAIFKATWBCCI.
I'm votin with mistah Porky.
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Old 01-29-2006, 09:13 PM   #225
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Airstream Owners Association International, Inc.

Well it's done, mostly...The new club name being sent to the delegates is: "Airstream Owners Association International, Inc." or the AOAI(I), I'm told that the last 'I' won't be used except legally. The name that the committee came in with was the 'Airstream Owners Association', but after much discussion and an amendment, the IBT added the word 'International'. There it is. After March this will go to the floor for the delagates to vote on, yes or no. Any other name suggestions must be made before March. Comments???
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Old 01-29-2006, 09:36 PM   #226
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Well it's done, mostly...The new club name being sent to the delegates is: "Airstream Owners Association International, Inc." or the AOAI(I), I'm told that the last 'I' won't be used except legally. The name that the committee came in with was the 'Airstream Owners Association', but after much discussion and an amendment, the IBT added the word 'International'. There it is. After March this will go to the floor for the delagates to vote on, yes or no. Any other name suggestions must be made before March. Comments???
One small procedural change - The Units get to vote first - this time they can send their Delegate with a definite message. VOTE NO.

Why anyone would even vote for this motion or any motion to change the Name - without first being presented with written feasibility of a Name Change, detailed financial implications of a Name Change and the accountibility for the Name Change Costs - is totally beyond me.

This whole process is so entirely backwards it is beyond comprehension - and anyone who votes for this name change reiterates the loss of democracy and heralds dictatorship at the muse of our Constitution.

Wally would be turning in his grave!!! Actually no, he would be laughing at this absurd ridicule and travesty before the eyes of the membership.

He would chuckle and say you have been spending too much time in the Zolatone Bays....

I sure hope that you all take a serious long look at this process before you send your delegate to the Delegates meeting and send not only a No Vote but a serious message from your Unit to our Leadership - to stop and listen to its membership - to open their eyes and look at the trends in membership and understand the diverse needs of the new members today - and be respectful of a 50 year foundation - that is the basis for tomorrows prospective members.
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Old 02-04-2006, 09:46 PM   #227
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...How come we didn't get a selection of potential names to choose from - or did we?
That decision was made by the IBT appointed committee & supported by the IBT. Actually the committee recommended "Airstream Owners Association" but the recent past president motioned to add "International" & it passed, hence that name and only that name will be on the floor for the delegates.
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Old 02-04-2006, 11:07 PM   #228
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The Logo

I was at a unit luncheon today and saw the proposed new logo. I wish I had asked for a copy to scan and post here, but didn't (sorry). The logo is similar to the current logo in that it's round and has the name of the club (Airstream Owners Association International, in this case) around the periphery. It differs in that Wally's face is now gone from the center, having been replaced by a drawing of an Airstream Trailer superimposed on a Globe. In addition to that fact that at the unit luncheon, there was 100% opposition to the propsed name change, there were comments from the motorhome owners that having only a trailer on the logo was exclusionary and gives the impression that this is just a trailer club. Another great decision? Well maybe . . . Perhaps this will help sway a few more members to vote against the name change altogether.
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I think this is the logo mentioned in the above post.
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Old 02-05-2006, 08:08 AM   #230
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I think this is the logo mentioned in the above post.
Yep! That's what I saw - same colors and everything. If it was previously posted here somewhere I must have missed it.

I didn't remember that the logo pays more homage to Airstream than the fact they we are a club (or an "Association") made up of people (or "Owners"), because the word "Airstream" is obviously bigger and bolder than "Owners Association International". Maybe I have been nieve and this is just a ploy to give Airstream Corp. more control over the club. I sure hope not, but it makes one wonder.
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Denial of the History

For those who say that the name change is not a denial of the history of WBCCI take a good look at that logo. Everything about it says "Good Bye Wally".

As a personal observation - the new logo lacks the "pride of ownership" look that the WBCCI logo shows. I could go as far as to say that the logo shows the same kind of amateur approach to logo design that has been put into the whole name change. It seems as if the whole process have been devoid of any professional expertise in the planning and implementation process.
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Being new to all of this, so is that it? They have officially changed their name and logo?
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Old 02-05-2006, 09:43 AM   #233
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Being new to all of this, so is that it? They have officially changed their name and logo?
Not yet . . . The international Board of Trustee's (or IBT) has voted to "preliminarily" change the name of WBCCI to "Airstream Owners Association International, Incorporated", with the "Incorporated" omitted from logo's and correspondence (it's a legal thing). I say they've "preliminarily" approved it, because they actually voted to send it to all of the individual units for official ratification, so it is the units (and therefore at least to some extent the members - depends upon how your unit handles the vote) that have the final say. Until the ink is dry on this thing, there are some of us who will fight to save the 50 year history of this club (just celebrated the 50th Aniversary last year!) by not entirely throwing out the name of the club at this time. This all started out of a proposal to "add the word AIRSTREAM to the (existing) name of the club". How it got perverted into throwing out the current name and replacing it with something totally different, we'd all like to know.
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Thanks for the explaination...

I have not been able to read up on the whole thing, so I was curious as to what is happening.
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While not a member of WBCCI, if they were going to consider a name change, why something as complicated as what they came up with? How about following the KISS principle, Keep It Simple Stupid, and use WBAC (Wally Byam Airstream Club)? It keeps Wally in there where he should be and gives a plug for Airstream.
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While not a member of WBCCI, if they were going to consider a name change, why something as complicated as what they came up with? How about following the KISS principle, Keep It Simple Stupid, and use WBAC (Wally Byam Airstream Club)? It keeps Wally in there where he should be and gives a plug for Airstream.
I think that most people who voted "to add AIRSTREAM to the name of the club" assumed it would end up something like the WBAC you propose. That is something I could accept, although I do not personally consider it necessary to add AIRSTREM at all. I think there is a growing feeling among many/most WBCCI members that the new proposal goes way too far. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.
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I found this text on the Airstream Corp website:

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Airstream began with a single man and a most singular dream. The man was Wally Byam: his dream, to build the perfect travel trailer. One that would move like a stream of air. One that would be light enough to be towed by a standard automobile. One that would provide first-class living accommodations anywhere in the world. Thus, over 70 years ago was born the first Airstream trailer. And with it was born yet another dream, a dream of new freedom, new places, new experiences, and new friendships. It was a dream so powerful, so enduring it did far more than create a new way of travel; it created a new way of life shared by thousands upon thousands of families.

The Airstream philosophy has always been and will always be, “ Let’s not make any changes — let’s make only improvements!” Every inch of an Airstream has a functional purpose. There is no planned obsolescence. This is as true in today's models as it was of the first Airstream to see the light of the open road. The classic Airstream of the thirties is no museum piece. Still in use today, it is as sturdy and modern in appearance as the first day it swung into traffic. As a result, an Airstream is always “in style’ — conceived and constructed as a lifetime investment in happiness.

Today, the Airstream is the most thoroughly tested Airstream in trailer history. It is years ahead in engineering — the culmination of over 70 years of experience in trailer making, millions of miles of Caravan travel throughout the world; plus millions of miles more, run up by happy Airstream owners! More than ever, the Airstream remains a testimonial to the practical vision, the tenacity and know-how of one dedicated man — Wally Byam, and his team who made your travel dreams come true.

Don't you find it interesting that the man who started and owned the Airstream Company and designed, tested and promoted the product didn't name the club (WBCCI) Airstream anything?
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....and on the other site- we find this....... an excerpt from... "The above story was written by Frank Palmer following the death of Wally Byam in 1962."

Wally said there would always be caravans. They would go farther, stay longer, encompass more. They would always be needed to introduce new caravanners to the ever expanding potential of the travel trailer and to feed back more and more information to his factories.

Yet he knew perfectly well that only a small percentage of his Airstream owners could go on very many caravans. Most of them would do the majority of their travel by trailer to places closer to home, family and responsibilities.

He was thus enormously pleased in 1955 when a group of his followers actually beat him to the next logical step; they founded a club of their own which would “localize” caravanning and put it on a year round basis. Of course, they named it after him.

The Wally Byam Caravan Club is now one of the largest clubs in trailering, and it is a remarkable tribute to Wally. It demonstrates once more, and in an excellent way, the effect he had upon those around him. Most men would have insisted upon controlling the club; Wally let his followers keep control.
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Simplify!

Now that I am an interested outsider I will say the name needs to be simplified and WBCCI is dated and does need to be changed. AOAI is too much of a mouth full as was WBCCI. I want to hum "Old MacDonald's Farm" when I read it. Why the need to say International? There is little focus today on those famous Wally Byam Caravans overseas. Why not just say Airstream Owner's Association and use the tag AOA? Three letters is a lot easier to say and work with and AOA is symetrical--another plus.

Also, come up with a more contemporary logo. You can easily create a logo profile image instantly identifiable of the famous Airstream design without resorting to a literal image of a specific trailer. What I have seen so far is what a local print shop copy designer would do for a small two-bit dealership in West Nowhere, USA.

My god people get with it and match the great design of the Airstream itself. Also dump those blue berets and go to a cool silver ball cap with a great simplified logo that will be instantly identifiable.
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So can anyone say in simple terms and less than 50 words, exactly what ordinary members of the club-formerly-known-as-WBCCI can do right now to oppose this silly new name? Seems like it is an unstoppable freight train at this point.

Write letters?
Send email?
Picket at the International Rally?
Civil disobedience?
or just gripe endlessly here on a forum that has no real influence on the club leadership?
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