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02-01-2012, 08:54 PM
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#981
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,850
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Thanks to both of you, I hope this is voted down and disappears forever.
Bill
Quote:
Originally Posted by 47WeeWind
I second that. Very good letter, Bill.
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Bill Kerfoot, WBCCI/VAC/CAC/El Camino Real Unit #5223
Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
https://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
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02-04-2012, 08:17 AM
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#982
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Rivets?
1992 29' Excella
2010 22' Interstate
Van By The River
, Georgia
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,363
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Rambling Thoughts...
Thank you Bill for the letter in Blue Beret. Danielle and I had discussed writing a similar letter but decided against it since other suggestions we have made to WBCCI were ignored. We're certainly pleased to see your letter was published.
I was surprised to read the letter to the editor a few months ago that contained so much anecdotal information regarding the popularity of motorhomes compared to towable RVs. On our last trip I performed a similar anecdotal count of all vehicles on the road that had integral sleeping quarters or a form of sleeping quarters towed/attached to the vehicle. By counting the number of vehicles with living quarters I surmised that semi-tractors are far and away the most popular means of sleeping in your vehicle while on the road. I want to make an proposal that Airstream should build, or re-brand, a semi-tractor with a sleeper cabin. Based on my anecdotal count the semi-tractor with a sleeper cabin outnumbered ALL RVs (including motorhomes) by a clear margin!
I'm currently reading Portfolio Life by David Corbett and Richard Higgins. While it has nothing to do with Airstreams it has everything to do with learning how to leave your past (career in this case) and move on with new, fulfilling endeavors. Maybe I should purchase 200 or so copies and pass them out at the International this year.
Lucius
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04-14-2012, 06:41 AM
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#983
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Rivet Master
1961 24' Tradewind
1969 29' Ambassador
1970 21' Globetrotter
Jamestown
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,783
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Does anyone have an electronic copy of the latest Motor home motion that they could send me or post??
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Rick Davis 1602 K8DOC
61 tradewind, plus a few others
13 Ram 2500 TD
99 Dodge TD 577K miles
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04-14-2012, 07:59 AM
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#984
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Rivet Master
1993 34' Excella
1962 16' Bambi
New Haven
, Connecticut
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 600
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RickDavis
Does anyone have an electronic copy of the latest Motor home motion that they could send me or post??
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here's a link to the motions...
2012 WBCCI Delegates Amendments
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04-14-2012, 09:57 AM
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#985
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Rivet Master
1961 24' Tradewind
1969 29' Ambassador
1970 21' Globetrotter
Jamestown
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,783
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Quote:
Originally Posted by munimula
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Thanks
Found everything I needed
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Rick Davis 1602 K8DOC
61 tradewind, plus a few others
13 Ram 2500 TD
99 Dodge TD 577K miles
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04-16-2012, 12:30 PM
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#986
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari SS SE
1969 27' Overlander
Martinez
, Georgia
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 759
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The GA Unit voted AGAINST the subject Ammendment. The vote was unanimous.
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Matt
WBCCI # 3518
TAC# GA-6
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04-16-2012, 09:33 PM
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#987
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Aluminum in 3-D
1968 28' Ambassador
Seaside
, Oregon
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 580
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I'm glad to hear the Georgia unit voted against the Motor home Amendment. This neutralizes the Washington Unit vote if they vote for the Motor Home Amendment which they may, they have a lot of Motor Home members in their unit. Both Georgia and Washington have the largest membership with over 300 members each. As I have said the Oregon Unit voted 100% NO. As one member said, if this was brought up during the Beatrice years, could you stay a member if you brought a jar of Best foods Mayo.
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Teresa
Membership chair
Wally Byam Airstream Club
Past President Oregon Unit 090
Campfires, the original social media!
wbcci#29827
Check out the [URL="https://airstreamclub.org/"and Wally Byam Airstream Club on facebook
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04-17-2012, 06:24 AM
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#988
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari SS SE
1969 27' Overlander
Martinez
, Georgia
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 759
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Also remember, in changes to the Constitution, each NO cancels 2 YES votes.
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WBCCI # 3518
TAC# GA-6
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04-17-2012, 06:32 AM
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#989
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Rivet Master
1997 34' Limited
1970 27' Overlander
South of Atlanta
, Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,709
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The GA unit does have a fair number of Motor Home owners as well. There were only two questions from the floor, followed by a unanimous vote AGAINST the amendment. I would also share that we had a lot of members at the meeting. Attendance was well in excess of the required number for a quorum lest anyone think the vote was a product of only a few members. Many of our Motor Home owning members were present as well and included in the unanimous vote AGAINST the amendment.
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Craig and Carol
1997 34' Excella 1000
1970 27' Overlander, International
2009 Ford F150 5.4L
ProPride hitch with 1400# bars
AIR 41028
TAC GA-8
WBCCI 10199
Past President Southeastern Camping Unit (12)
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04-17-2012, 06:39 AM
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#990
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Figment of My Imagination
2012 Interstate Coach
From All Over
, More Than Anywhere Else
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 10,868
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I really hope this doesn't turn into a play-by-play report on the vote, like the news media do with candidates for public office; "With 8% of the precincts reporting, XX is in the lead with 48% of the vote, followed by…"
Attempts to use the vote tabulation to date in order to influence votes still to come seem unethical to me. I'd rather see everyone vote their conscience, and then tally the votes once at the end, not reporting one Unit at a time. Honestly, the fact that Oregon voted "Yes" and Georgia voted "No" shouldn't have a bearing on what any other Unit decides; all that should matter is what each Unit's members personally feel about the issue.
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I thought getting old would take longer!
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04-17-2012, 07:20 AM
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#991
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Guest
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 99
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If the MOHO issue passes you will loose another 1500 to 2000 members. I would be one of them.
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04-17-2012, 07:30 AM
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#992
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Rivet Master
Southwestern
, Ohio
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,671
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Protagonist
Attempts to use the vote tabulation to date in order to influence votes still to come seem unethical to me. I'd rather see everyone vote their conscience, and then tally the votes once at the end, not reporting one Unit at a time.
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Do you see this as an attempt to influence votes? I don't. For one thing, relatively few WBCCI members participate in Airforums.
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04-17-2012, 07:56 AM
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#993
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Rivet Master
1961 24' Tradewind
1969 29' Ambassador
1970 21' Globetrotter
Jamestown
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,783
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I like knowing how others are voting.. It certainly won't influence my vote.
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Rick Davis 1602 K8DOC
61 tradewind, plus a few others
13 Ram 2500 TD
99 Dodge TD 577K miles
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04-17-2012, 07:56 AM
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#994
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Figment of My Imagination
2012 Interstate Coach
From All Over
, More Than Anywhere Else
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 10,868
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuvite-F
Do you see this as an attempt to influence votes? I don't. For one thing, relatively few WBCCI members participate in Airforums.
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I'll take your word for the number of WBCCI members who participate in Airforums. I haven't seen statistics on that.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Protagonist
Honestly, the fact that Oregon voted "Yes" and Georgia voted "No" shouldn't have a bearing on what any other Unit decides; all that should matter is what each Unit's members personally feel about the issue.
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Correction! I mistakenly indicated the Oregon Unit voting "Yes." In actuality, they voted "No." I should have proofread better; I meant to say Washington, not Oregon. Apologies to the Oregon Unit. And even at that, I should have read better, too; as can be seen below, the reference by Blue Pearl to the Washington Unit was speculative, not a report on an actual vote. What can I say? I'm an idiot.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Pearl
This neutralizes the Washington Unit vote if they vote for the Motor Home Amendment which they may, they have a lot of Motor Home members in their unit.
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Nevertheless, my opinion about Unit-by-Unit reporting still stands, despite the flaws in presenting my case. Saying that "one unit's vote offsets another unit's vote"— before the final results are tallied— leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Voting is additive, not subtractive; no one's vote offsets anyone else's.
That is not meant to be a criticism of Blue Pearl; his/her opinion on the MOHO issue is as valid as anyone's. I just don't want to see the results of one Unit's vote swaying any other Unit when they vote.
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I thought getting old would take longer!
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04-17-2012, 08:15 AM
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#995
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Rivet Master
2007 23' International CCD
Lapeer
, Michigan
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,080
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Pearl
As one member said, if this was brought up during the Beatrice years, could you stay a member if you brought a jar of Best foods Mayo.
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That's funny!
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04-17-2012, 08:57 AM
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#996
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Rivet Master
Southwestern
, Ohio
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,671
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Pearl
As one member said, if this was brought up during the Beatrice years, could you stay a member if you brought a jar of Best foods Mayo.
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Ummm. . . errr. . . would a jar of mayonnaise qualify as a "hard sided recreational vehicle made by Beatrice Foods"?
Maybe if Beatrice marketed a canned ham?
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04-17-2012, 09:17 AM
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#997
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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I think the mayo jar would have to have wheels.
Gene
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04-17-2012, 10:28 AM
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#998
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari SS SE
1969 27' Overlander
Martinez
, Georgia
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 759
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I would never want to tell someone how to vote, but I would encourage them to do so. Some units choose not to vote on issues impacting the club and that is unfortunate.
The more the issues are discussed within a unit (and between units) the greater the chance the vote will reflect the opinion of the members. Often issues are not fully explained or understood based solely on the information provided by the club.
So, simply stated-
My intent was to inform. My hope was to spur discussion and thought. To the extent I offend, it is truly unintentional.
Matt
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Matt
WBCCI # 3518
TAC# GA-6
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04-17-2012, 11:22 AM
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#999
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Rivet Master
1961 24' Tradewind
1969 29' Ambassador
1970 21' Globetrotter
Jamestown
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,783
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The Future?
In the past Airstream was owned by a food company.
It is always possible Thor could sell Airstream and it could be owned by another food company.
This could be the WBCCI motorhome of the future
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Rick Davis 1602 K8DOC
61 tradewind, plus a few others
13 Ram 2500 TD
99 Dodge TD 577K miles
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04-17-2012, 11:52 AM
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#1000
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Mantua
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,062
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The MOHO issue may alone determine the future of the club. Those making light of the situation may be out of line. jim
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