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12-18-2011, 12:28 PM
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#761
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,070
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May I remind any member so move that the e mail address of the membership were printed in the 2008 or 9 directory. Please consult your current directory or the BB for the current list of Officers.
Contrary to what the Lawyers have said, in their last cease and desist notation to me, any member can e mail any member pertaining to WBCCI interests. Page 2 of the directory, definition of the use of the contents of the directory. They wrote the restriction let them suffer by it.
Start to and continue to make your thought known. If you have posted here we know your thoughts. Send an e mail so they know your thoughts and start working within your units to schedule a vote.
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WBCCI 12156 AIR 3144 WACHUNG TAC NJ6
2004 Excursion 4x4
1991 34 ft. Excella +220,000 miles, new laminated flooring, new upholstery, new 3200 lbs axles
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12-18-2011, 01:30 PM
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#762
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 899
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Hopefully my thoughts in November "Letter to the Editor" Blue Beret were heard? Do I need to email the IBT directly, especially the thoughts from the THOR DIESEL CLUB membership chair, Patricia Koritta, who said THOR DIESEL CLUB has NO interest in WBCCI. She did say, Airstream Class A owners are welcome to join the "TDC" as long as they trade the Airstream and buy a "THOR Motor COACH".
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JIM n CHRIS
‘62 Overlander 26 ft. ATW Yeager trailer #5289
"62 Airstream 22ft. ATW Hall trailer #83,’90 SQ Sream, ‘06 Bambi Q/S, Prevost Featherlite 45ft, GMC/ Bigfoot camper
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12-18-2011, 01:49 PM
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#763
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,070
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Coloradobus
Hopefully my thoughts in November "Letter to the Editor" Blue Beret were heard? Do I need to email the IBT directly, especially the thoughts from the THOR DIESEL CLUB membership chair, Patricia Koritta, who said THOR DIESEL CLUB has NO interest in WBCCI. She did say, Airstream Class A owners are welcome to join the "TDC" as long as they trade the Airstream and buy a "THOR Motor COACH".
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Yes
You do have to e mail them individually. My old boss often said 10% never get the word no matter how often they are told. Looks like the IBT is made up of a lot of people my old boss was referring to.
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WBCCI 12156 AIR 3144 WACHUNG TAC NJ6
2004 Excursion 4x4
1991 34 ft. Excella +220,000 miles, new laminated flooring, new upholstery, new 3200 lbs axles
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12-18-2011, 01:53 PM
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#764
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,849
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Anyone who needs the email address of the top four IBT, please PM me.
Bill
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Bill Kerfoot, WBCCI/VAC/CAC/El Camino Real Unit #5223
Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
https://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
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12-18-2011, 05:54 PM
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#765
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Silver Mist
Currently Looking...
Riverhead
, New York
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wkerfoot
Anyone who needs the email address of the top four IBT, please PM me.
Bill
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Bill if I may suggest, expand your offer to entire IBT, not just 4.
Also be mindful it is Region 12's pres Ryan that is pushing the MOHO.
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12-18-2011, 06:52 PM
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#766
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2 Rivet Member
2023 30' Classic
Currently Looking...
Minden
, Nevada
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 25
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I'm confused by your post regarding the MHO issue. You mention the President of Region 12 as Pres Ryan. The current President is Judy Bechthold and the maker of the motion regarding the MHO issue is the current IBT Treasurer June Ryan.
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12-18-2011, 06:55 PM
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#767
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Silver Mist
Currently Looking...
Riverhead
, New York
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,011
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yep, my error
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12-18-2011, 09:00 PM
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#768
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,849
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Bob,
I understand your comment, anyone who wants to include the entire IBT can send an email to Cindy Reed and request that she forward it to anyone in leadership.
Bill
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Originally Posted by LI Pets
Bill if I may suggest, expand your offer to entire IBT, not just 4.
Also be mindful it is Region 12's pres Ryan that is pushing the MOHO.
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Bill Kerfoot, WBCCI/VAC/CAC/El Camino Real Unit #5223
Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
https://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
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12-19-2011, 11:55 AM
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#769
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
1954 25' Cruiser
1990 34.5' Airstream 345
VC Highlands
, Nevada
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,151
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What I find disappointing on this is that there is little to no member benefit making it into the discussion - the best that the leadership can offer is a MOHO amendment that the overwhelming majority positively do not want! There is absolutely no member benefit to adding motorhomes. There is nothing here in this motion to actually KEEP members - especially in that the proponents have failed completely to show any evidence that this motion will be good for the club and increase membership. Talk to your average members - they are so turned off by this prospect that they will leave the club if this goes through. at least anecdotally, way more members will leave if this passes.....
If as much effort was put into trying to bring in the new owners of Airstreams and vintage rigs, this club could grow. There are so many units out there bucking the decline in the club - so it can be done. Make International cheaper and funner (although I have tons of fun with the VAC at International).
Bill, I'll take those addresses.... I write a message to express my thoughts.
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12-19-2011, 01:40 PM
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#770
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,800
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Ever feel like you're Bill Murray?
Enjoy,
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12-19-2011, 03:25 PM
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#771
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,070
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RickDavis
The agenda for the upcoming IBT meeting is posted at http://www.wbcci.org/documents/Janua...T%20Agenda.pdf.
There are only 4 motions, 3 that are not particularly significant to most of us and of course the MOHO proposal.
I find it difficult to believe even the IBT would support allowing non Airstream people with Thor motorhomes to join the WBCCI but it looks like that is what they are trying for.
Hopefully this one will never make it to the delegates but that is probably wishful thinking
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It is interesting that a link to the Revised Constitution show up on the Clubs master web page but the so called Leadership has forgotten any need to discuss it at the mid winter.
I guess they want to get this MH issue passed before anything of importance to the Club is addressed.
http://www.wbcci.org
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WBCCI 12156 AIR 3144 WACHUNG TAC NJ6
2004 Excursion 4x4
1991 34 ft. Excella +220,000 miles, new laminated flooring, new upholstery, new 3200 lbs axles
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12-19-2011, 06:29 PM
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#772
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3 Rivet Member
2022 16' Basecamp
Currently Looking...
anywhere
, Alabama
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 218
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Letter to Region 2 Pres
I am so thankful to the many friends that we have in this club and for their help in informing me of the issues/amendments being proposed. As the new pres of WDCU, I have not received any information from the Region president or the "7". Talk about the need for improving their communication skills!!
I sent a note to the Region 2 Pres regarding the moho amendment. I also want to send a note to our members and ask them to say "no" to this amendment, by emailing the IBT 7. So if someone can PM me their e-mail addresses, I would appreciate it very much.
Thanks,
Sonia
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12-19-2011, 07:06 PM
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#773
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,070
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DONE
If anyone else wants a copy let me know
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WBCCI 12156 AIR 3144 WACHUNG TAC NJ6
2004 Excursion 4x4
1991 34 ft. Excella +220,000 miles, new laminated flooring, new upholstery, new 3200 lbs axles
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12-19-2011, 07:17 PM
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#774
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,800
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Sonia,
Glad to see you taking an active role as the WDCU "Prez". As you may already know (or will shortly find out) a WBCCI Prez and the membership can find out far more about the goings-on of the WBCCI here than any other place including the WBCCI website or the BB. The last vote on the MOHO issue the WDCU cast all votes against including other brands in the WBCCI at Perry, GA. Let's hope they will do the same this time around if it comes up for a vote.
It can be a bunch of fun being "The Prez" of a WBCCI Unit.
Enjoy,
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12-19-2011, 07:47 PM
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#775
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 899
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My letter is awaiting me to "hit" send button. I'll do in the A.M.
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JIM n CHRIS
‘62 Overlander 26 ft. ATW Yeager trailer #5289
"62 Airstream 22ft. ATW Hall trailer #83,’90 SQ Sream, ‘06 Bambi Q/S, Prevost Featherlite 45ft, GMC/ Bigfoot camper
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12-19-2011, 08:58 PM
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#776
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,849
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I have heard back from three of the individuals to whom I send my email.
Bill
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Bill Kerfoot, WBCCI/VAC/CAC/El Camino Real Unit #5223
Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
https://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
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12-19-2011, 09:24 PM
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#777
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Rivet Master
2007 23' International CCD
Lapeer
, Michigan
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,080
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wkerfoot
I have heard back from three of the individuals to whom I send my email.
Bill
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And what did you hear back?
I wish officers would post to an open forum!
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12-19-2011, 09:31 PM
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#778
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,849
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That they appreciated my opinions. I did not expect more, only an acknowledgment of receipt.
Bill
Quote:
Originally Posted by wheel interested
And what did you hear back?
I wish officers would post to an open forum!
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Bill Kerfoot, WBCCI/VAC/CAC/El Camino Real Unit #5223
Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
https://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
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12-19-2011, 09:35 PM
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#779
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Rivet Master
2007 23' International CCD
Lapeer
, Michigan
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,080
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Thanks Bill. I hope someday that the elected officers will feel it advantageous not merely to acknowlege that members spoke but to speak themselves and actually address current issues so that the club could begin to build upon communication and make headway into improving the future of WBCCI for the membership. I would expect much more than a notice of reply received for the price of dues requested these days. As business is conducted outside the confines of business meetings for the Executive Committee and region officers and committee members, I think that business concerns from membership could also be explored and expounded upon and just perhaps hasten the productivity beyond the laboriously slow business meeting agenda with limitless delays as is now experienced. Where there is a will there is a way. However the will lies not with the members.
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12-20-2011, 12:57 PM
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#780
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Mantua
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,062
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Ryan? Iced tea?.jim
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