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Old 06-28-2011, 04:05 PM   #381
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You are being too narrow minded.

You should allow all brands of all RV types in. I want my fifth wheel to be allowed in. Why only allow Thor motorhomes. It just isn't fair.

The WBCCI is really just a social club. No need to discriminate against us non Airstream owners.

Come on - can't we all just be friends.
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WBCCI MoHo Issue

The seeds of fermentation and fomentation were planted in '92 with the nascent VAC, a group whose ideas about camping, the Wally philosophy, and disdain of rulebooks were antithetical to the ruling class. Nothing has really changed since then, and it won't. The Proletariats always win even with minor setbacks because the rules are theirs, the gold is theirs, the committees are theirs, the "elections" are theirs, and member-offered compromises are little more than a Clement Atlee approach to Hitler, "Peace in Our Time". Why is everyone so surprised at the third round of MoHo? I agree with Rick and Paul, but let's take this a step further and vote with the IBT to permit Thor coaches into the Wally Club with the proviso/quid pro quo of accepting vintage busses (yes, 2 esses) as well. Let's go for "Further," Ken Kesey's prize but with its original horn speakers mounted on the roof blaring rock with the constantly overdubbed "How was your stay-ay-ay in San Jose-ay-ay" duringthe International Rally, clouds of dope smoke emanating from the windows. Open up the bus pedigree to things older than 25 years of course. How about the Charlestown Chiefs ("Slap Shot") team bus with the axe holes in the sides or its fan bus with mooning females. Too outre, you say? Well then, the "Gauntlet" bus, the "Speed" bus, both GM Fishbowls qualify. Take some seats outs and throw a couple cots in...you're camping. Take the Curtain! It's Theatre of the Absurd.
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Old 06-28-2011, 06:58 PM   #383
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I'm with Jimmy. You're on the bus or you're off the bus! Have the meetings in Denver where there are hundreds of medical marijuana dispensaries. We are all old, have chronic pain and other ailments. Let's light up and mellow out.

Next come the Electric Kool Aid Acid Tests. Where's Jerry Garcia when we need him.

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Old 06-29-2011, 07:29 AM   #384
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There is no need to compromise. No need to change. If it comes up for a vote, just vote it out again. I feel no obligation to old members who suddenly want to have an new motorhome and change the club rules to accomodate them. A compromise here is sorta like a mugger telling you to give him $100. when you say no, he says lets compromise for $50. If we do change, I would favor opening it to all units and expanding the caravan program based on an enlarged number of members.
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Old 06-29-2011, 07:40 PM   #385
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If they do!!!

Ya think they'll want us??

Sweet Sovereign of the Road: The Torohome

If they open it up to all units... we're re-joining!!

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And..if we let them in and then
what if Thor becomes part of lets say
Fleetwood
Forest River
or
any other brand
Won't they ALL want in...
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Old 06-29-2011, 09:00 PM   #387
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When they all are in, then they can rename it the Good Sam Club.

But why would they want to be let in if the organization stays the same otherwise?

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Those driving this barge are only interested in their self gratification and image of being above the MASSES.
There in one sentence is the prime reason for all this bickering. It began when the first Airstream Motorhomes were begrudgingly allowed into the WBCCI and it still lives.

We quit the group in disgust several years ago and have never looked back.
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at what point would an AS club become just another RV club?

5th wheels? pop-ups? tents?

Does the wbcci want to be good sam?

as noted before, would you allow any GM car into a Corvette club? Does a Ford Explorer belong in the Mustang clug?

come on people! this is just NUTS!

we are either an AS club or we are not.

if the wbcci is just going to be another RV moho club for a bunch of 'trailer challenged' memebers - so be it. i, and a large bunch of others, will probably just bid a fond farewell and move on down the road.

we joined for the friends and fun not the rules, regulations and turmoil!

safe travels friends.
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...Why doesn't the Good Sams membership go up in arms twice every year?...
This is, in part quite, simple: The Good Sam Club is outright owned and operated by the Affinity Group (and at a healthy profit). There are no such things as voting and voting rights.


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The bigger part is that those in charge (Good Sams) understand both their charter and their business model. That member satisfaction is paramount. You guarantee member satisfaction, you provide services that far outweigh your annual dues and you succeed.
Nevertheless, last time I attended a Good Sam rally, I was told that their attendance was also declining rapidly. . .

(And if anything, the average age of the attendees was older than that of WBCCI rallies!)
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/ So where does this bottom out anyway? 2500 members? 2000 members? 1000 members?

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I'm gonna join as soon as membership drops below 1000. I want a three digit number.
3 digit numbers are not freed up or assigned according to membership numbers or availability but reserved and extended only to those deemed worthy by the International Club of executives. Fast forward Mad Max style and the EC7 will be alive and flying their banners across America without a club behind them. And wait til you get a load of those special badges then...

I love the Airstream Classic motorhomes. I was so looking forward to the new anniversary model motorhome in the Airstream iconic shape. Even though it would have been quite expensive it would have been very unique and cool. Instead Thor has offices at JC instead of production expansion. From an Airstream claim to fame that is no big shakes for the brand, not much different than the Beatrice Years I suspect. I wish they could have at least built the prototype that we all could visit and have enshrined at the factory. Airstream may be missing the mark of opportunity not creating a museum and design center separate from the factory tour.
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And wait til you get a load of those special badges then...
Why stop at badges? Here are some special uniforms they could use:

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MoHo Issue

With the third round of Moho's being interjected, perhaps an assortment of new uniforms is in order for bus drivers to aptly distinguish themselves from the common proletariats who must tow. Certainly, no one believes The Wallyites have nearly enough costumes at International to satisfy the multitude of special event days for full dress camping. A bus has plenty of "basement" to lay in a wide assortment of smart frocks and eye-bulging uniforms-of-the-day, especially with the space saving vacuum packs as-seen-on-tv. Picture the surprise on your friends' faces as you step out of your new Thor in your Gotham Bus Company starched and pressed suit! Beret Day? Not to worry! You'll fit right in sitting on the entry step playing "Lady of Spain" on your big sqeezebox. And just imagine yourself dressed to the nines in this fabulous Zulu outfit as you strut up the aisle during the Flag Ceremony. For those laid back bus owners who deign to mix with the lesser coach plebeians around a propane campfire, make a class-breaking statement in fur and animal skin!
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I guess the goy with the brow ridges is the average trailer owner.

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Maybe I really meant "goy" though I thought I was printing "guy". Another case of psychological stress.

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There are a few significant parallels between declining WBCCI membership volume and the now extinct Neanderthal race although Paleolithic man never saw a bus.
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