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Old 03-23-2004, 04:04 PM   #21
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Wally Byam Caravan plaque

I think I've figured out how to post the pics so all can see:
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Old 03-23-2004, 04:06 PM   #22
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Yea! It worked. Here's another:
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Old 03-23-2004, 04:07 PM   #23
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Old 03-23-2004, 04:30 PM   #24
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Awesome job Doug! ! Fred, you paying attention to this? This is great stuff here. Anyone else have old - sorry - vintage paperwork that came with their vintage units? All I have is a set of coffee mugs from the Midwest Unit of the WBCC before they went international.

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Old 03-23-2004, 05:38 PM   #25
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Re: Wally Byam Caravan plaque

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I think I've figured out how to post the pics so all can see:
Wanna sell them?

Ok I just went out and looked and measures. The plaque on ours was 3.75 x 8.5 What does that one measure?

The coach is backed up to our garage with the flood lights pointed at it. I stood on the rear bumper to measure and saw something. I Never noticed this before but there is a round outline about 4 inches in diameter dead center about 14 inches above the plaque....I bet it was a international sticker.

Could not see any WBCCI out lines even with that odd angle of light.
So does that mean our coach has been overseas on a caravan?


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The name of the people my Father-in-law bought the coach from is Charles R. sr and Kathaleen s. Brown of Snellville GA. That is dated aug 15, 1980.

As far as we can tell they are the original owners. We have original KH brake controler, Reece paper work and instructions sheets all dated 57 to 59. So we have what we think is the majority of the paperwork and no other name is on it.
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Old 03-23-2004, 06:01 PM   #26
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I stood on the rear bumper to measure and saw something. I Never noticed this before but there is a round outline about 4 inches in diameter dead center about 14 inches above the plaque....I bet it was a international sticker.
Cool!
So now you have a dilema: will you polish away this shadow of history?

I measured our plaque: 3-13/16 x 8-1/2, looks like it's right on! Is it for sale? Well, everything has a price, but unless it's REALLY good, I think we'll keep 'em, thanks!

They're so shiny new, I hope I can actually bring myself to drill holes through them to rivet them on.

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Old 03-23-2004, 06:10 PM   #27
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Doug:

They are not replaceable. I would put them in plastic bags or a folder documenting the coach and go with stickers. I'm about to place a order with Airstream dreams and a pair of Red stickers will be ordered. They will be put on the original plaques.

Very neat find!


I love the fact that I now know what they are and I hope Fred has some luck with confirming where our coach may have been and what it's WBCCI numbers were.

I tried to reverse look up the Browns. They no longer live at the address we have for them. Tried a search on Google and not coming up with anything. They may not be with us anymore. Most air streams do not part with their coaches till they can no longer enjoy them,
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Very cool!! I was away a couple of days, and love the direction this thread has gone. To find original plates and the supporting paperwork is awesome. I've always been interested in the history of the collectible vehicles I've owned, and also the various houses we've restored. Now, here are my ghost numbers, 5759, and I'm sure the Wally Byam Caravan Club on my trailer was a rectangular sticker. The only information I have is from the title. My Overlander was registered to a John Shenkir of Pasadena Texas previous to the guy I bought it from, who sold it only after a month of ownership. Whether Mr Shenkir was a long time owner I have no idea. I do know that somebody took relatively good care of the Overlander, since it had all original fittings, uphostery and tile. I'm dreaming of meeting the previous caravaner, and discovering a wealth of pictures, perhaps even my airstream is a veteran of the Latin American or European adventures. Thanks to anyone who can provide some information to fill in the gaps. Mike
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FF: Yes, I'm paying attention and have requested from Cruiser large image files for the VAC Archives. He has unearthed some great history. Is this a silk thread or what? I've sent PMs to those who have requested old directory data. I don't quite feel right posting that information here in public.
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I think Fred has discovered my '61 Overlander International's original owner. Or at least one of em. Thanks for taking the time and looking it up Fred. We've never come up with a name for our Airstream yet, perhaps.... Dora....... the Explora .....to honor the ole girl. I 'm thrill ed that soon after taking delivery in October of 1961, they were off adventuring in Mexico. People with a wanderlust just like me. Mike


ps... the original lifetime guarantee is still pasted on the pantry door, with the delivery date, and signed by someone at the factory. I'll make a copy of it and email it.
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Thumbs up An interesting factoid

The Feb 5,1958, letter signed by:
Helen Byam Schwamborn , Caravan Secretary..is still around and, listed in the latest Membership Directory~!~

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Red vs. Blue

Anyone know the distinction between the red and blue colored decals or plates? Did that possibly mean different caravans? If this was the case, I suppose a trailer could have had both color plates?

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p.s.: we really need to get an archive section started for all of this to be posted and shared
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I am wondering if anybody is making a reproduction International sticker?
Since it appears our coach had one Chili and I want to replace it.

So I guess this means we have a Caravanner International ?
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I have seen them on Ebay from time to time but as far as I know, that's your one source. The art wouldn't be that difficult to make, its getting it on the aluminum that would be the tough part.

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I am wondering if anybody is making a reproduction International sticker? Since it appears our coach had one Chili and I want to replace it. So I guess this means we have a Caravanner International ?
59Toaster: If your 59 Caravanner had the International series accessory package, its serial number would have an "I" prefix. I don't understand what you mean by "one Chili".
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59Toaster: If your 59 Caravanner had the International series accessory package, its serial number would have an "I" prefix. I don't understand what you mean by "one Chili".
Sorry. should be a "one, Chili".

This is Chili Pepper My better half.
She might even post because I know she was watching this post when I showed her what the Plaque was.

Our Coach is being reborn as the "Chili Pepper" as it's Theme. It's getting dressed out in a few things from the Tabasco store.
http://countrystore.tabasco.com/

I'll have to check for the "I" tonight unless Chili will. . If it doesn't then I wonder what that sticker was. It's in the right place for a International logo. I'll have to get a light and see if I can find one on the front.

What would be in a "International package"? Our coach was 100 percent selfcontained at one time.
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I looked and there is no, "I" just the serial numbers.
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In 1959, self-contained Airstreams were "Land Yachts" and self-contained trailers with additional equipment and better fabrics were the top-of-the-line "International" series trailers. Land Yachts ususally had a near square (perhaps 10" high x 12" wide, or thereabouts) plaque showing Wally Byam's head against background compass points riveted to the front curb side exterior.
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In 1959, self-contained Airstreams were "Land Yachts" and self-contained trailers with additional equipment and better fabrics were the top-of-the-line "International" series trailers. Land Yachts ususally had a near square (perhaps 10" high x 12" wide, or thereabouts) plaque showing Wally Byam's head against background compass points riveted to the front curb side exterior.
Ok ours is a Land Yacht.

This is the actual plaque on ours.


Well since you didn''t find the Browns listed and we have both a WBCCI sticker ghost and the Caravan plaque it looks like there was a 4th owner of our coach.

Thanks again Fred!
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WB plaque

59toaster your plaque is awesome...I wish someone was making reproductions of that one...we have a '69 Landyacht and I would buy one of those in a heartbeat.

Thanks for the great pic!

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