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Old 01-04-2021, 09:50 PM   #1221
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Assistance request please

Good evening Joe!

I have been reading your posts and plan to join WBCCI tomorrow. Can I trouble you to look up information on my trailer when you get a chance? I just purchased it, and it was supposedly sitting for decades in North Carolina. I just posted in the new members section with some pictures attached as well.

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WBCCI:5001

I appreciate the time that you spend researching, and Iím sure that I speak for the group on that. Thanks in advance!

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Old 01-19-2021, 11:02 PM   #1222
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Joe- I was wondering if you can see if my trailer's original owner had a WBCCI number. I have a 1967 Safari that was purchased in August 23, 1968, by W.D Hoofer, MD in Halstead, Kansas. It does not have any ghost numbers. thanks, Jerry WBCCI 1968
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Old 01-20-2021, 06:31 PM   #1223
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Good evening Joe!

I have been reading your posts and plan to join WBCCI tomorrow. Can I trouble you to look up information on my trailer when you get a chance? I just purchased it, and it was supposedly sitting for decades in North Carolina. I just posted in the new members section with some pictures attached as well.

1956 Sovereign of the Road
SN:5135
WBCCI:5001

I appreciate the time that you spend researching, and I’m sure that I speak for the group on that. Thanks in advance!

Darin
Hi Darin,
I already provided a partial answer by PM. Here is the full answer.

WBCCI #5001 was first assigned by the club in 1961, thus first appearing in the 1962 Membership Directory. Here is how #5001 has been assigned over the years according to WBCCI Membership Directories:
  • 1962-68: Alex and Dorothy Christiansen, Bremerton, WA, no caravans.
  • 1969-74: Carl & Gertrude Bales, Gatlinburg, TN, no caravans.
  • 1975-76: unassigned.
  • 1977: William J. & Bobbie Kysar, Indianapolis, IN, no caravans.
  • 1978-81: Unassigned.
  • 1982-2008: A couple from Boulder, CO (1982), Milliken, CO (2008), other details withheld due to privacy concerns.
  • 2009: Already reassigned to someone else, but did not investigate further due to privacy concerns.
I don't think the later assignees matter. The most likely to have owned your 1956 Sovereign would have been either one or both of the first two couples to be assigned #5001. Because there was no unassigned year between the Christiansen's and the Bales, there is at least some chance that the trailer passed from one coupe to the other, though the distances involved suggest we cannot assume this happened.

That's all I got. Enjoy that rare 1950's 30-foooter . . . a lot for you to polish.
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Old 01-20-2021, 06:43 PM   #1224
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Joe- I was wondering if you can see if my trailer's original owner had a WBCCI number. I have a 1967 Safari that was purchased in August 23, 1968, by W.D Hoofer, MD in Halstead, Kansas. It does not have any ghost numbers. thanks, Jerry WBCCI 1968
Hi Jerry,
Success!!! In the 1969 WBCCI Membership Directory #21937 was assigned to Dr. Wilford & Marvella Hoofer of Halstead, KS. This number would have first been assigned during 1968 which ties in perfectly with the purchase document you have. The Hoofers were last listed in the 1970 Directory, so if they ever put their numbers on the trailer, they were not on it very long, which could be why you can't find any ghost outlines.

#21937 was next assigned to someone in Pennsylvania in 1972, which I do think applies to your trailer, so I didn't check any further. Enjoy your Safari!
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Old 01-20-2021, 10:25 PM   #1225
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Joe- thanks. I have the good Doctor's obit and I've got a few patients who are from that neck of the woods. I'm trying to see if there was an intermediate owner between Doc Hoofer and the last titled owner. He was the flight surgeon for the Mercury 7 NASA Space program. Quite the man's man. Played triple A for the Yankees and was a college football All-American. Hoping the kids have some photos and recollection. He was a hunter, and I'm not sure it the trailer was just used for Surgical stress relief with his hunting buddies. Jerry
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Old 01-21-2021, 07:52 AM   #1226
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Joe- the same Safari had a subsequent owner in Newton, Kansas by the name of Gerald and Vicky Newman. Do you have any membership info on them. I have receipts from the Mid-90's with their names on items for repairs. Jerry Lamb WBCCI 1968
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Old 01-21-2021, 12:19 PM   #1227
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Joe- I wanted to correct the Newman's town. The license registration was Independence Kansas. thanks, Jerry 1968
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Old 01-21-2021, 01:40 PM   #1228
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Joe- the same Safari had a subsequent owner in Newton, Kansas by the name of Gerald and Vicky Newman. Do you have any membership info on them. I have receipts from the Mid-90's with their names on items for repairs. Jerry Lamb WBCCI 1968
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Joe- I wanted to correct the Newman's town. The license registration was Independence Kansas. thanks, Jerry 1968
Hi Jerry, I checked every Directory from 1990 thru 2000 and even spot checked a few in the 1980s and early 2000s and did not find Gerald and Vicky Newman ever listed as club members.
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Joe- thanks, I really appreciate what you do on the forum. Jerry
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