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03-10-2007, 06:07 AM
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#81
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Rivet Master
2006 19' Safari SE
NW of Boston
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 987
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codybear
...new unchartered territory, it seems!!
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Or you could say newly chartered territory. I think it makes much more sense to start up a new unit than to try to make change in an older unit, especially if you've got a new group of people with fresh new ideas like this one.
On the constitution for a new unit, I would suggest starting with one that has already been approved for one of the newer units that is closest to the kind of unit you want to make. For example, if you want to do most of your units business by internet, mail, phone etc. and save rallies for, well, rallying (duh!), then you could borrow the WDCU's or maybe the FCU's (do they operate that way? don't remember) constitution and work from there. No use re-reinventing the wheel.
Good luck with this!
-Jamie
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03-10-2007, 06:35 AM
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#82
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Huntington Beach
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,293
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Thanks
Quote:
Originally Posted by dougjamie
On the constitution for a new unit, I would suggest starting with one that has already been approved for one of the newer units that is closest to the kind of unit you want to make. For example, if you want to do most of your units business by internet, mail, phone etc. and save rallies for, well, rallying (duh!), then you could borrow the WDCU's or maybe the FCU's (do they operate that way? don't remember) constitution and work from there. No use re-reinventing the wheel.
-Jamie
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XLNT suggestion Jamie....there you go Goin camping...this will make your new job a little easier.
Time
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03-10-2007, 08:42 AM
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#83
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Rivet Master
1960 22' Safari
in the wilderness
, The great Mojave Desert
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,077
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TIMEMACHINE
XLNT suggestion Jamie....there you go Goin camping...this will make your new job a little easier.
Time
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Don't you mean our job?
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I'd rather be boon docking in the desert.
WBCCI 3344 FCU
AIR# 13896
CA 4
Yes, we have courtesy parking for you. About an hour North of Los Angeles.
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03-10-2007, 08:45 AM
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#84
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Huntington Beach
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,293
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Who me?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goin camping
Don't you mean our job?
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I am just the driver... your the boss. Just ask Vinnie.
Time
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03-10-2007, 06:48 PM
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#85
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Head Animal Wrangler
2010 19' International
2015 Interstate Ext. Coach
Los Osos
, California
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,696
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We'll all help...right?
This is a group project.
So who's actually in? Who will really join the new group?
Let's get a running tally going...
I'm in.
-WallyBam
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03-10-2007, 07:20 PM
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#86
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Rivet Master
1985 34.5' Airstream 345
Tujunga
, California
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,969
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We're in!
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Ron and Debbie Lawrence
1985 345 Motorhome...... delightfully tacky......yet unrefined
AIR 7992
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03-10-2007, 07:24 PM
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#87
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Rivet Master
1960 22' Safari
in the wilderness
, The great Mojave Desert
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,077
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We're in.
That makes three. Just call us Wally's kids.
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I'd rather be boon docking in the desert.
WBCCI 3344 FCU
AIR# 13896
CA 4
Yes, we have courtesy parking for you. About an hour North of Los Angeles.
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03-10-2007, 07:37 PM
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#88
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Rivet Master
1963 19' Globetrotter
Laguna Beach
, California
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 766
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Me too...that makes 4...
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03-10-2007, 07:50 PM
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#89
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Huntington Beach
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,293
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one additional notreallyavotevote for inclusion
Quote:
Originally Posted by BamCamper
So who's actually in? Who will really join the new group?
Let's get a running tally going...
I'm in.
-WallyBam
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Although Ms Time is not here to say otherwise, we, hmmmmmm, are in as long as we continue to have a notreallyagoodtimegoodtime and that we also don't forget who we really are not.
Time
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03-10-2007, 09:19 PM
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#90
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Head Animal Wrangler
2010 19' International
2015 Interstate Ext. Coach
Los Osos
, California
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,696
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TIMEMACHINE
as long as we continue to have a notreallyagoodtimegoodtime and that we also don't forget who we really are not.
Time
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Well said.
That's 5.
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03-10-2007, 09:22 PM
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#91
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
1982 24' Airstream 240
Ventura
, California
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,645
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Count us in.
We are in.....pj
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Paula & Ed
WBCCI # 8252 Air#13593
1982 24'Motorhome (82Ste P)
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03-10-2007, 09:22 PM
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#92
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Head Animal Wrangler
2010 19' International
2015 Interstate Ext. Coach
Los Osos
, California
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,696
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Great!
6.
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03-10-2007, 10:14 PM
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#93
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2 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari FB SE
Out in the middle of nowhere
, California
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 70
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BamCamper
Great!
6.
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Yep and we haven't heard from Uwe, Kevbo, or Millertime yet. However, Kevbo and Millertime said previously that they would. I'm sure there's more.
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Proud Mother of an American Vet
Proud of my "special" family
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04-15-2007, 02:46 PM
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#94
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Rivet Master
1960 22' Safari
in the wilderness
, The great Mojave Desert
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,077
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A reminder
While you guys are in Casini don't forget to discuss the idea of a new unit.
Also think of who would make good officers.
We have a statewide group to draw from.
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I'd rather be boon docking in the desert.
WBCCI 3344 FCU
AIR# 13896
CA 4
Yes, we have courtesy parking for you. About an hour North of Los Angeles.
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04-15-2007, 04:05 PM
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#95
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Huntington Beach
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,293
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The vote is in.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goin camping
While you guys are in Casini don't forget to discuss the idea of a new unit.
Also think of who would make good officers.
We have a statewide group to draw from.
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"And the president speaks" as he sits in his aluminum throne pondering the challenges of leadership. Ok...maybe it is just a Zip Dee chair.
Time
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04-15-2007, 04:25 PM
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#96
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Rivet Master
1960 22' Safari
in the wilderness
, The great Mojave Desert
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,077
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TIMEMACHINE
"And the president speaks" as he sits in his aluminum throne pondering the challenges of leadership. Ok...maybe it is just a Zip Dee chair.
Time
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I do not have the people skills for that job.
I can do a lot of the setting up with help but leadership roles take a people person. I, as you know am a grumpy hermit.
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I'd rather be boon docking in the desert.
WBCCI 3344 FCU
AIR# 13896
CA 4
Yes, we have courtesy parking for you. About an hour North of Los Angeles.
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05-10-2007, 05:46 PM
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#97
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Rivet Master
1960 22' Safari
in the wilderness
, The great Mojave Desert
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,077
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Rules?
Bigdee,
Seems to me that a Unit only has to follow the rules it chooses to enforce. There is not a Wally PD that goes out searching for violaters that I am aware of.
So under that premise Every rally is a buddy rally and the first person that tries to ban Margi balls or start a business meeting while camping may be shot by the other members or the official rally greeter.
Jokes aside there is nothing that keeps a Unit from being what it wants to be.
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I'd rather be boon docking in the desert.
WBCCI 3344 FCU
AIR# 13896
CA 4
Yes, we have courtesy parking for you. About an hour North of Los Angeles.
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05-10-2007, 05:49 PM
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#98
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,850
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Goin camping
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Jokes aside there is nothing that keeps a Unit from being what it wants to be.
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Goin,
True, True, go for it.
Bill
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Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
https://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
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05-10-2007, 06:51 PM
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#99
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Rivet Master
2004 30' Classic
San Jose
, California
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,664
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Goin camping
Bigdee,
Seems to me that a Unit only has to follow the rules it chooses to enforce. There is not a Wally PD that goes out searching for violaters that I am aware of.
So under that premise Every rally is a buddy rally and the first person that tries to ban Margi balls or start a business meeting while camping may be shot by the other members or the official rally greeter.
Jokes aside there is nothing that keeps a Unit from being what it wants to be.
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I am sure the WBCCI would not like a unit disregarding their rules and making their own. Probally the unit would face sanctions and possibly ejection.
My question is unanswered. Why does the NorCal group need the WBCCI at $60 a year? The only reason I can think of is to honor Wally. Well we can honor him in other ways without the WBCCI rules.
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Come rally with us.
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05-10-2007, 07:47 PM
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#100
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
1954 25' Cruiser
1990 34.5' Airstream 345
VC Highlands
, Nevada
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,151
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A unit should be free to decide how it wants to conduct itself. But to charter a unit with WBCCI means you have to put together a governing documents (constitution and the like). Those have to be approved. But I do know that units like the SNU pretty much run on a de-facto buddy rally because they have had non airstreams at practically every rally we ever went to.
I think that any unit shut down for operating outside the WBCCI rules would be like a nail in the coffin of the WBCCI. I already know that there are units out there that live it up NorCal style and they aren't getting kicked out!
I do have an answer as to why join the WBCCI when you can save the $$$ and just rally where you want... For us it is purely for the history and love of Airstreaming. And to me, despite the horrors the IBT is putting down on this club the WBCCI is worth saving and worth turning into the sort of club it should be. However, I know that is not for everybody and I respect that. That is why, if a new unit were to form, I would like to see that it is as open, friendly and fun as the Casini Ranch rally was.
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