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Old 07-07-2006, 08:02 AM   #21
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I'm with you on that Jim. I would like to go to Int'l and hang out for the VAC Open house for an afternoon or two but regulations on where your numbers have to be, how and where to park, proper way to wear your beret, three flags at certain heights and a certain order? I have to deal with this during my work week, not when I want to put my feet. WDU sounds like a good idea. I've been to one of the AZ unit's events, one of the few they have a year, and it wasn't for me.

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Old 07-07-2006, 08:15 AM   #22
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I now own a Beret...

Having had to borrow one for the opening ceremony in Salem I decided to purchase one of my own. Being a geek I'm kind of like'n it. It will now hang in a place of honor in my camper. There will be a small admission charge for those who would like to view it.
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Old 07-07-2006, 08:21 AM   #23
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Rgesch, I think you have the right idea. We will be going MAL this fall. In our unit if you don't have a late model 34' trailer you are not in the click. If you want wine at a dinner you have to bring it in a container other than a wine bottle and drink out of a plastic glass. If you have a beer outside your trailer you are frowned upon. We have been members for 3 years and haven't seen one campfire yet. They don't like vintage trailers. After we got our 26' Argosy finished and painted, we went to a rally and were referred to as the "people in that old painted thing". Hope to meet up with you one day.
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Old 07-07-2006, 08:22 AM   #24
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My wife and I really enjoy getting together with fellow Airstream owners and camping.
When we joined the WBCCI, I made it very clear that there would be no meetings for me. When they start I leave and play with the kids. I also accept the fact that whatever is decided at the meetings can not be an issue with me since my decision was to not participate. Now an issue has come up which I can not ignore and that is the cost of rallies and dues to be a member of the WBCCI.
We can get together with a group of friends at a campground for a weekend for under a $50.00. Now rally fees alone are creeping up to twice that figure and then there is the camping fee. My wallet is not that thick to support the cost. What we are paying for are activities in which we do not participate; banquets we do not enjoy; store bought cakes; and other accoutrement's which are better suited for a party than camping.
Yes I know, I don't got to the meetings and have agreed to accept what is decided but there is a limit. When we look at the cost of the WBCCI and now even the VAC region rally we must make a decision. Is this a group we want to be part of for all of the reasons mentioned above? We like to camp and love to be with fellow Airstream owners. Sadly, I can not afford the WBCCI and VAC anymore.
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Old 07-07-2006, 08:28 AM   #25
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Old 07-07-2006, 08:34 AM   #26
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You and I have talked about this before. Since under no condition will I renew with the NM Unit, but I want to be a member of WBCCI just to remain a member of VAC, please tell me more about WDCU (Like where do I send my money?).

By the way, wouldn't it make more since if VAC had "unit" status in its own right?
Ken--Not being a Vintage owner I'm wondering why you folks have to pay WBCCI dues in addition to VAC. It looks like a "Shakedown" by WBCCI. What do you need with them in the first place?? ---Pieman
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Old 07-07-2006, 08:40 AM   #27
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I'm with you on that Jim. I would like to go to Int'l and hang out for the VAC Open house for an afternoon or two but regulations on where your numbers have to be, how and where to park, proper way to wear your beret, three flags at certain heights and a certain order? I have to deal with this during my work week, not when I want to put my feet. WDU sounds like a good idea. I've been to one of the AZ unit's events, one of the few they have a year, and it wasn't for me.

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Only stuffy shirt officer types wear the funny hats at official stuff. It is funny to see them walking around with them on. Helps you know who to stay away from.... If someone bothers you with rules stay thankyou and if they don't leave tell them to go away. The number help them know who you are and if you are signed up as you drive in. They have "a list". Put them on a sheet of lexan in your window and you can put them up or take them down. Went to a regional without numbers and the guy at the gate said you don't have your number on, I said they must have blown off. He didn't bother me after that. Frankly the only real requirements in the vintage section are that you park in a lined up space. Everyone parking where ever would make it hard to get around and find people with even 40 trailers let alone a thousand. You don't have to have flags. Put up your USMC flag and see if someone saids something. BS is BS, call it that and move on. Of course there are kids around and it's not an "adult" gathering.... mostly... kind of...
We will go to Perry for a few days but not do the junky stuff.
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Old 07-07-2006, 08:41 AM   #28
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Ken--Not being a Vintage owner I'm wondering why you folks have to pay WBCCI dues in addition to VAC. It looks like a "Shakedown" by WBCCI. What do you need with them in the first place?? ---Pieman
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Old 07-07-2006, 08:49 AM   #29
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I'm with you on that Jim. I would like to go to Int'l and hang out for the VAC Open house for an afternoon or two but regulations on where your numbers have to be, how and where to park, proper way to wear your beret, three flags at certain heights and a certain order? I have to deal with this during my work week, not when I want to put my feet. WDU sounds like a good idea. I've been to one of the AZ unit's events, one of the few they have a year, and it wasn't for me.

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While I was at International this year I notice many, many rigs without red numbers or with red numbers on Plexiglas attached by suction cups to front/back windows. I did not see (or hear) of anyone from the WBCCI police going after these people. I also saw (mostly in vintage) many "unapproved" flags - once again no WBCCI police round up of whipper-snappers happened that I know of. As for the Berets, they run so small everyone needs to get a size large and then they barely fit - the manufacturer must think everyone in the WBCCI is a pin head!

So from my vintage point it looks like our club is changing, for the better! There are still some silly rules but many of old guard are looking the other way when us whipper-snappers break them. To me this is great progress.

I recommend you go to the 2007 International, if the programs being offered don't appeal to you then make your own fun - this is what the folks in Vintage do and they have a blast! Oh, and when you're there look me up. I'll be easy to spot: Super shiney 93 Excella without numbers flying at least 2 unapproved flags with a bunch of lighted pink flamingos and 1 lighted alligator surrounding my rig.
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Old 07-07-2006, 08:56 AM   #30
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After we got our 26' Argosy finished and painted, we went to a rally and were referred to as the "people in that old painted thing".
That is sad.
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Old 07-07-2006, 08:57 AM   #31
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...but regulations on where your numbers have to be, how and where to park, proper way to wear your beret, three flags at certain heights and a certain order?
hey, its not like you're going to be "ejected" from the rally if you don't follow these silly rules. Seems to me that the worst consequence is that you might invite a snide grumbling from some old fuddy-duddy...thats about it. There's plenty of ways to work around these things...numbers can be displayed without permantently affixing them. At least when you're parked, you'll "look" uniform, and the important reason for them is still achieved. (quick and easy identification in the event of an emergency). This "uniformity" is a hallmark of the generation that now rules the club. I say, let 'em have their fun. It'll eventually pass, along with buggy-whips, engine cranks, gopher holes and snail-mail.

now, the berets: there's one rule they SHOULD enforce...problem is, no one in the club KNOWS HOW to wear a beret properly. If they did...we wouldn't be griping about it, cuz they'd be cool and ultra-hip, as they were originally intended. But instead, they just look silly.



Rally Fees: I just got a refund check from the last one I attended. No explanation, but I assume the hosts spent less $$ than they originally anticipated.
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Old 07-07-2006, 09:04 AM   #32
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Rally Fees: I just got a refund check from the last one I attended. No explanation, but I assume the hosts spent less $$ than they originally anticipated.
Me too! It's like free money. I love it when this happens.
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Old 07-07-2006, 09:05 AM   #33
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And I'll be flying the USMC colors! I'll have my Grandfather's beret too, but probably won't wear it. And I'll be a 2nd VP to the WDCU.... oh yeah! Maybe I'll be impeached.
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Old 07-07-2006, 09:11 AM   #34
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Could this be the problem?

I am a member at large. I found the locol Units web page. No phone number. So I E-mailed the Unit Pres. about joining his Unit. No response for the last week.
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Old 07-07-2006, 09:18 AM   #35
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And I'll be flying the USMC colors! I'll have my Grandfather's beret too, but probably won't wear it. And I'll be a 2nd VP to the WDCU.... oh yeah! Maybe I'll be impeached.
Maybe your impeachment can be one of the scheduled events at the 2007 International Rally.....
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Okay. Who's gonna be the first to tell the Marine that he's flying the wrong flag??

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I am a member at large. I found the locol Units web page. No phone number. So I E-mailed the Unit Pres. about joining his Unit. No response for the last week.
He was probably at the International ... but if he had his computer with him ... no excuse not to answer.

Isn't it amazing how different Units operate? When we joined the Washington Unit last month ... the guy in charge of membership was called in before we left the Gatehouse ... he drove up in his golf cart and gave us a warm welcome.

About an hour after we parked, another member came over ... said he was part of the "welcoming committee" ... then gave us about a 2 pound filet of King Salmon!
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Old 07-07-2006, 09:40 AM   #38
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Well, I am not surprised really. You see I picked this Unit cause they are small and Blue haired. Except for one poor guy that does everything I don't think they are that active. Why you ask?

EVIL PLAN

Phase one
1, Join dying unit.
2, Invite all the people I've met between Visalia and San Diego who just want to camp and have fun to join also.

Phase two
1, Go camping in new and cool places. Campgrounds and boondocking.
2, No flag rules.
3, No fees other than campground. This means no store bought cake or provided dinners. Bring your own food and drink.
4, No business meeting shall last more than an hour.

All suggestions are welcome.
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Old 07-07-2006, 10:36 AM   #39
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As others have said, we can most often get a reduced rate as a group. We got a discounted rate for the Outter Banks this August.

Most peope like to feel part of the group by helping out at the rally. It's a lot easier if everyone helps out, but feel free to plan your own time and do what interests you in the area. We like to plan 1 group event.

I am having an informal rally Aug 4-7 at a nice park in Ontario. No plans, no events just camping, campfire and maybe joint pizza party.
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Old 07-07-2006, 10:50 AM   #40
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Well I think I've just about had it. Is anyone else finding that being an "active" member of their Unit that you spend more time on the politics and less time on what you thought you joined the club for? Like camping?
I'm assuming that what you mean by "active" member is holding an officers position. If that is the case, hang in there as it will be over with in two months. I think that once you are out of the officer position you will find you will be spending less time in politics and more time sitting back, relaxing and enjoying the camping experience.
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