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StingrayL82 · 01-14-2006, 12:14 PM

I just spoke with Ron at South Jersey RV. His wife, Linda, was down in Texas for the IBT vote on the WBCCI name change. The long story short is that the vote has been referred back down to the delegates, to be voted on in Salem. For now, the WBCCI name stays.

Frederic

balrgn · 01-14-2006, 12:19 PM

Thanks for the UPDATE!

StingrayL82 · 01-14-2006, 12:44 PM

Leo, yeah, I got my 2006 Directory

No, the AOAI name change was not approved, because there were several names proposed at the IBT meeting, not just AOAI. Some of those names were not on the original name change proposal, so it's going back to the delegates, and they'll decide what's going to be done, at the Salem Rally. Ron is going to have Linda email me with the specifics, and I'll post what she told me then.

Frederic

phred · 01-14-2006, 10:14 PM

I attended the IBT rally in Anthony, Texas and was present during the entire meeting. The IBT voted to submit the name Airstream Owners' Association International, Incorporated to the unit delegates for a yes or no vote at the annual delegates' meeting on 30 June 2006 at the International Rally in Salem Oregon. The IBT amended the original proposal from committee to include the word "International".

Each WBCCI Unit authorizes a delegate and that person casts the unit's members' votes for and against at the delegates' meeting. In essence, this means that the members will be deciding if they want to change the name to Airstream Owners' Association International, Incorporated .

Also presented to the delegates will be a logo similar to the current logo with an Airstream trailer and the full name in a circle around it. It is similar to our current logo in design and color.

The information on the proposed name change and proposed logo will be sent to each Unit President. If you are a member of a WBCCI unit, make sure members of your unit vote on these two issues. If you are a member-at-large, join a unit so you can vote!

I hope this clarifies the issue!!

StingrayL82 · 01-14-2006, 10:22 PM

It does indeed, Phred. Thank you for the clarification, as Linda never got back to me. I must say, though, that this name sounds even dumber than the first proposal. You can be assured that I am voting no.

Frederic

Buttercup · 01-14-2006, 10:52 PM

We got our avatar!

Thanks Leo. Great job on the graphics. You rock! If you decide to make stickers put us down for a couple dozen. We'll pass them out to all of our Airstreamin' friends.

With regards to the letter campaign, we're in at the $400. level. Maybe we can cut down the cost if we incorporate an e-mail campaign for those who have an e-mail address. (Does the club have an e-mail list?)

Or, uhmm, do we have access to something like that, being members and all?

(BUT, just in case the vote is for a name and logo change, I've ordered 2 additional sets of numbers and WBCCI stickers for the future.)

On a side note, I find it interesting how much Airstream Corp. has re-introduced Wally and the history of the Airstream back into recent advertising and promotional materials. Hmmm, maybe they're on to something?

And, I've been very inspired recently by doing some Wally Byam research. (I'm thinking of dawning a bullhorn at our next rally. Tim has a small motorized bike that I could ride around on!) The patch on MY beautiful, new, blue beret says 'Wally Byam Caravanners' and it has a profile picture of Wally on it. Looks pretty good.

I'm a 44-year-old vintage Airstream geek, and I'm loving Wally's vision. If I could have only been there during the early years, I would have been in heaven. (Historically modern. That's the tact the WBCCI should be taking to attract and retain new members.)

66Overlander · 01-14-2006, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by phred

I attended the IBT rally in Anthony, Texas and was present during the entire meeting. The IBT voted to submit the name Airstream Owners' Association International, Incorporated to the unit delegates for a yes or no vote at the annual delegates' meeting on 30 June 2006 at the International Rally in Salem Oregon. The IBT amended the original proposal from committee to include the word "International".

If this is not just someone pulling our collective leg . . . it just keeps getting worse and worse. AOAII . . . yeah that rolls off the tongue real nicely. . . NOT! I will keep working my local channels to try to get my unit and region to reject this inane proposal, but I am getting the idea that this is a losing proposition. Don't know what I'm gonna do. I have had fun at some WBCCI events and want to continue to do so, but I absolutely hate this latest proposal. AOA was bad, AOAI was worse, AOAII is just plain stupid and that's as nicely as I can put it. It seems the only way to vote on this issue may be with one's membership dollars (i.e. don't renew for 2007). I don't want to do it, but I may have to consider it.

Save the WBCCI . . Vote NO to AOAII!

wheel interested · 01-14-2006, 11:33 PM

Where's Candid Camera? I dare you! Please everyone, really, say AOAII out loud. Do it honest, I'm not kidding. Try to say it normally fast as you would in conversation. Try it three times for kicks. Better still turn to your partner and have them say it and watch their mouth. Now envision our officers speaking to the club...have you done that? I think I see a Saturday Night Live segment coming on...(maybe Carol Burnette ?)

I truly can't say it.

I'm in for some postage---not as much as you two though!

wheel interested · 01-14-2006, 11:50 PM

I'm in pain.

wingfoot321 · 01-15-2006, 12:31 AM

Old Mcdonald had a farm- AOAII
And on this farm he had some ducks, with a quack-quack here and a quack-quack there, here a quack, there a quack, everywhere a quack-quack, AOAII.

Doesn't sound too bad.

Buttercup · 01-15-2006, 07:14 AM

Huhh,

People complained before that it took 5 minutes to explain who Wally Byam is when trying to describe WBCCI. But if things keep going like they are, you'll need 5 minutes just to say the club name!

phred · 01-15-2006, 08:09 AM

Actually the new acronym will be AOAI and that is a lot easier to say than with two I's at the end. We do not need to have the Inc. "I" showing in any logo or patch that the club will use. The Inc is only for the legal name.

phred · 01-15-2006, 08:29 AM

As an aside on the acronym: It was pointed out at the meeting that a Google search of AOA yielded 2.5 million hits. Assoc on Aging, American Ostrich Assoc, etc. AOAI got 31,500 hits with only the Avanti Owners Association, International recognizable.

Buttercup · 01-15-2006, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 65GT

How's this for a sticker? 3", 4", what? In black, red, or blue?

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That'll work.

StingrayL82 · 01-15-2006, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by phred

As an aside on the acronym: It was pointed out at the meeting that a Google search of AOA yielded 2.5 million hits. Assoc on Aging, American Ostrich Assoc, etc. AOAI got 31,500 hits with only the Avanti Owners Association, International recognizable.

And we all know what happened to the Avanti.....

Frederic

StingrayL82 · 01-15-2006, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Buttercup

(I'm thinking of dawning a bullhorn at our next rally. Tim has a small motorized bike that I could ride around on!) The patch on MY beautiful, new, blue beret says 'Wally Byam Caravanners' and it has a profile picture of Wally on it. Looks pretty good.

I'm a 44-year-old vintage Airstream geek, and I'm loving Wally's vision. If I could have only been there during the early years, I would have been in heaven. (Historically modern. That's the tact the WBCCI should be taking to attract and retain new members.)

Kimber & Tim,

We actually have two "City Bugs", which look an awful lot like Wally's little scooter. Maybe we can get on our scooters and don our bullhorns at the next rally and heckle the IBT to abandon this folly, LOL. As for the Beret, I'm thinking about taking my Maroon Beret from my Airborne days and bleaching it, then dying it blue and getting a Wally patch.

I'm a 32-year-old vintage Airstream geek myself, and I really think that the IBT is doing a serious disservice to Wally's memory by changing the name of the club. Wally's maxim was to never change anything, only make improvements to the current design. I see nothing gained by this change....there is no improvement whatsoever.

Frederic

Buttercup · 01-15-2006, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by StingrayL82

Kimber & Tim,

We actually have two "City Bugs", which look an awful lot like Wally's little scooter. Maybe we can get on our scooters and don our bullhorns at the next rally and heckle the IBT to abandon this folly, LOL. As for the Beret, I'm thinking about taking my Maroon Beret from my Airborne days and bleaching it, then dying it blue and getting a Wally patch.

I'm a 32-year-old vintage Airstream geek myself, and I really think that the IBT is doing a serious disservice to Wally's memory by changing the name of the club. Wally's maxim was to never change anything, only make improvements to the current design. I see nothing gained by this change....there is no improvement whatsoever.

Frederic

You're ON! We'll bring the gas and the martini shaker and make a day of it.

StingrayL82 · 01-15-2006, 11:21 PM

What octane gas? I prefer Chopin Vodka myself

Our City Bugs are electric.

Frederic

Buttercup · 01-16-2006, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by StingrayL82

What octane gas? I prefer Chopin Vodka myself

Our City Bugs are electric.

Frederic

Grey Goose for us. I bring a battery charger - how about that???

05ModPod · 01-16-2006, 09:40 AM

What we could do here is to put together a LIST bullet points arguments for and against Changing the Name - not what the name change submission is or poking fun at what is presented. In my mind that just weakens our stand.

We have to present WBCCI as a viable "Club" name for the next 50 years. And present a case that changing the name is not going to solve the issues WBCCI if facing today. More importantly look for the rationale IBT presents with their information to propose the Name Change.

And folks if we can not do that then we have a loosing case on our hands.