I think we are saying the same things Ed.
Have you had a change of heart? You no longer think the WBCCI needs updating? changing? I remember distinctly when we were in agreement.... What is the contention you have now for those who mirror your opinions?
Madison Rally Cost
The cost for the rally is really getting out of hand. $255 just to run my AC plus the parking/rally fee is just crazy. I figure I'll be there about 7 days, I can go to a full service campground for that same fee AND get cable!
Other than than getting together with the people we know the International is not meeting my vacation needs. The cost, the way it is run and the locations picked needed to be looked at to draw the "New Airstreamer".
The point I am trying to make is that for the WBCCI and the International Rally to survive the location AND the activities need to draw those of us that still work and use our vacation time to attend. I no longer have any desire to attend Business Meetings at these functions, its a waste of time. At the IBTs meetings its all about nothing, they are not moving the club into what will appeal to the "New Airstreamer".
I for one will not use my vacation time to attend an International in a place that does not offer a "Vacation Attitude" any more. They need to step it up with these events and cut the costs.
[quote He come from a mentality of a strong militaristic stance - remember him telling people to "stand down" at the 2006 delegates meeting. Who says "stand down"?
I think that was Don S and not Jim F but I could be wrong. but a Stand Down is a Stand Down.
I think they are NOT worth fighting for, they ( the leadership that needs to go) but the club is worth fighting for. We need to take a stand and let them know that they can't keep doing stupid things. The leadership needs to be called out every time they do something dumb. I don't plan on going anywhere, but the leadership of the WBCCI needs to know that they can't keep doing these odd things and think that we are going to stand by and take it.
Join the WBCCI and change the future of the club.
Come join me and fight "Flag Flying" WBCCI oppression! Its a MOVEMENT!
The "prom" is one event that I don't see the need for, at least in its current format. That is my beef, if you have not attended then you need to go and see it for yourself, then make your decision. Go in business casual, that way you won't feel out of place when attending. If you have not attended you need to to see this, the meet and great after the big dinner. Then after that come back to this tread and let us know what you think.
No one should hold off joining the WBCCI because of this thread, heck its just a couple of people pointing out what they see in need of fixing. There are a lot of good things that people miss by not joining and some things that are in need of repair but we need you to join to help us do that.
The WBCCI is a good place to be, its just in need of some adjustments.
I believe Jerry's heart is in the right place but he is listening to the wrong people. These people are likely the same ones that brought us the "SOB motohome" and the "Airstream Owners Association" proposals in the last two years. In the end, votes of the general membership proved these people are in the minority. They are also the people who have led the club down a twenty year path of declining membership.
PeeWee's archive pictures do show that years ago the leadership did wear white dinner jackets to the installations. Early "70's Airstream ads also show ladies in nylons and heels serving gourmet meals in their Airstreams. I admit. I wore a tux to my wedding 38 years ago and to my daughter's wedding 14 years ago as well as wearing three piece suits to company meetings 20 years ago. I think that kind of dress code has its place and I will likely be buried in a suit. I do not think "POMP" fits that well with "Fun, Fellowship and Adventure" in a camping club.
I think the recent votes and membership trends show that a more casual atmosphere is more in line with what the general membership wants. The more progressive subgroups within WBCCI including: the Vintage Airstream Club, New England Unit, Four Corners Unit, and Save Wally, better represent the majority of the members' desires for the future of the club. I hope Jerry, (when he helps select people for the new "Long Term Strategy Committee",) will be listening to the right people and the committee is given the power to implement improvements to how the club is run.
Who Pissed in My Cornflakes?
Leo, Yep you got it right and that is my biggest complaint, no change in the way things are done to enhance the club. This committee is all smoke and mirrors and a big waste. As Shari and you stated we had this under Don and it was getting some great ideas from the membership why start over. I guess those of us that were on it are not worthy to provide ideas to this new President and he wants his own 5. Hey I guess every President wants to make his mark, but to study (again) and not take action is a waste.
To make things sadder is seems that we are in the minority, I think those that are members and don’t get real involved don’t see a need for change. But then again they also don’t pay attention to the reduction of numbers in membership, the struggle that some units have just to survive and fill the officer positions; the Unit is the lifeblood of the club. Each his own but if someone doesn’t say something (and it seems it needs to be said over and over and over) and get the leadership to understand there is a new generation of Airstream owner out there the club will die, period.
Jim, who pissed in my Cornflakes? I’ll tell you who, those that sit in the sidelines and don’t get involved, those who don’t understand that the declining membership of the WBCCI means death to my club. Leadership who is stuck in the 60’s, leadership who is afraid to make a change but will spend years studying it, leadership who only care about their self interests and not that of the club (can you say Motor Home Vote), that don’t care about the core traditions that this club was founded on. Who pissed in my Cornflakes? Wasted time on useless things that will not help this club and most of all people who want to put their heads in the sand and say all is ok. I think that I have enough “time in grade” to see things as they are and feel I have a right as a long time WBCCI member to speak out. But what you also have to understand Jim is I don’t sit on the sidelines and bitch, I get right in the ring with them and slug it out. The “Value”? Wow I don’t know, but I’ll tell you one thing I have spent years supporting the club and being asked by my fellow members to continue to do so. I’ll let it go at that.
Hey, if you don’t like what I have to say, don’t read my posts, my name is right there, no handles for me, you know who I am.. Hey it’s America you are free to do as you see fit!
Not Another WBCCI Committee!
Those of you that are WBCCI members have probably received October’s issue by now, did you read page 10? The article called “Special Committee for Long Range Planning” just boils my blood. The leadership of the IBT wants to put together a committee to look 5-10-even 15 years down the road. They want people to submit a resume and a cover letter stating their goals and objectives for this committee and the IBT will pick the best 5 for the job. Now there will be the “Chosen Five”, blessed by the IBT and controlled by the IBT, boy that will generate “new” ideas!
This committee’s first task is to set their own goals and objectives, then work on the long range plan, WRITE A WBCCI MISSION STATEMENT, and determine or core values and Goals! Didn’t we do this once, twice three times already? Don’t they have enough ideas, hey IBT read these Forums!
What a waste, time is running and the IBT is putting together a committee to keep from making a decision
on change, change that everyone is crying for. I say put a committee together now, volunteers not resumes, take as many as you can get, focus on today not 15 years from now, and make a damn decision already.