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Old 01-21-2007, 11:14 AM   #81
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Hold on folks -- I don't think Don Shafer said anything inflamatory. I believe you guys are referring to what Jim Franklin said during Renee's presentation. I'm extracting it now -- be back in a bit...

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Hi Leo,
I was pretty sure it was Jim Franklin that made those statements at the time of my post and have since confirmed it.Just didn't want any misinformation out there on this issue.
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Old 01-21-2007, 11:15 AM   #82
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Yes, It WAS Jim Franklin who said that. remember Jim from last years delegates meeting??? "STAND DOWN"!!! That Jim Franklin....
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Old 01-21-2007, 11:16 AM   #83
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Hold on folks -- I don't think Don Shafer said anything inflamatory. I believe you guys are referring to what Jim Franklin said during Renee's presentation. I'm extracting it now -- be back in a bit...

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Thanks for doing this Leo. It's a good idea to quote him exactly. He also made a comment about all the "lies" on the internet about WBCCI, though he didn't give any examples. It would be good to have his exact words and the context in which they were spoken.

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Old 01-21-2007, 11:57 AM   #84
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The most interesting suggestion during Renee's presentation came from the floor (I think). It was a way the club could double it's membership right now.

The speaker stated that since most memberships are 2 people (husband and wife), we simply count the number of people and not family units.
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Old 01-21-2007, 12:30 PM   #85
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Hi, we r Mike and Sheri and have just bought our first trailer. A 2006 20' aniversery model...How do we decide which group to join. We live in Pheonix and there dosen't seem to be much going on. We both still work part time so going anywhere long distance is pretty much out. Help
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Thor, Airstream and the WBCCI IBT are ALL numbers driven.

We are those numbers.
Speaking of numbers. One thing I notice is that the IBT has a hard time getting a handle on just how many members and potential members of WBCCI are bothered about their actions.

One way to be counted is to sign your name and number up as a supporter at SaveWally. It costs nothing but a few minutes of your time to be counted there. Am I right on that, 65GT? I think they are always ready and willing to add a new name.

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Hi, we r Mike and Sheri and have just bought our first trailer. A 2006 20' aniversery model...How do we decide which group to join. We live in Pheonix and there dosen't seem to be much going on. We both still work part time so going anywhere long distance is pretty much out. Help
Mike and Sheri, Hi and welcome to the forums! The club has a unit in Arizona, I checked it out and did not find it to be a good fit for me.

Another alternative is the Four Corners (not quite a) Unit. We are a group of folks who are trying to become a unit in the club and we are having a unit / forums rally in Cottenwood next month. We are just a bunch of people who want to get out and enjoy the outdoors in our Airstreams. Like everything else, you should try it before you buy it. More information about the rally can be found at the link below.
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Speaking of numbers. One thing I notice is that the IBT has a hard time getting a handle on just how many members and potential members of WBCCI are bothered about their actions.

One way to be counted is to sign your name and number up as a supporter at SaveWally. It costs nothing but a few minutes of your time to be counted there. Am I right on that, 65GT? I think they are always ready and willing to add a new name.

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Yes it takes nothing. Just drop us a line saying that youwant to be listed as a supporter and we will be happy to add your name. Sign up on our forums (we have additional information for registered users). Whatever you do, if you are passionate about the WBCCI and the direction it is going, get incvolved. Any little thing you do will help.
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Old 01-21-2007, 03:46 PM   #89
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Hi, we r Mike and Sheri and have just bought our first trailer. A 2006 20' aniversery model...How do we decide which group to join. We live in Pheonix and there dosen't seem to be much going on. We both still work part time so going anywhere long distance is pretty much out. Help
Hi Mike and Sheri,

Welcome to the Forums! You'll find info and entertainment here.

Which group to join is always a toughie. Your group has to do your style of camping and you have to be comfortable with the group.

The easiest way to sort that out is to go camping with or go visit the different groups while they are camping. Just ask in advance if you can drop by and meet the people. If they say no it will give you a hint pretty quick about them.

At the 29 Palms Rally we had several couples show up to visit. One had not picked up their trailer yet and the other were in the nieghborhood without theirs. Great folks too. We were all glad they showed up.

As an aside I have met people from the Proposed Four Corners Unit and they are a lot of fun! Mostly working folks getting away for the weekends and long weekends to have a good time.

Go shopping for a Unit and good luck! Hope to see you around the campfire.
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Can at-large WBCCI members "hang out" with the local clubs and participate in their activities? I'm an at-large mbr but with not an overabundance of free time cause I work full-time.
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Can at-large WBCCI members "hang out" with the local clubs and participate in their activities? I'm an at-large mbr but with not an overabundance of free time cause I work full-time.
Yes, any member can attend any function, unit and region. You do not need to be a member of that unit or region.

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Old 01-21-2007, 04:06 PM   #92
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Bill,

How many people did you bring in that Lincln of yours ar 29 Palms?

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How many people did you bring in that Lincln of yours ar 29 Palms?

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Only four, the other two and the dogs came in the Jeep.

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Bill, Thanks. I thought I had seen a 2nd vehicle but was not sure since that Licoln of yours could seat eight with room left over.

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Our little local unit has 12 rallys a year all within a 150 mile radius. We meet once a month usually on the 3rd weekend.
WBCCI has over 7,000 units and most of these units are two members or more bringing the total membership closer to 14,000 than 7,000.
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I heard this arguement mentioned at the meetings but thought that a little odd. When there was 25000 members, did that mean there was really only about 12000 members? I don't think so. It is the number of WBCCI numbered memberships. It has never been an individual member club. It was based on the number of numbered rigs if you know what I mean.
But no matter how you look at it, WBCCI is losing 1 member, or 1 rig or 2 people each day. The numbers are declining
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Did he actually say that? When and where was it said?

I have seen some posts regarding Past Int'l President Franklin's comments.
I read this in a recent post on one of the strings reagrding the WBCCI upheavel.
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I think that it is extremely shortsighted on the part of International President Shafer to state publicly that those who disagree with him (mal-contents) should drop their membership in WBCCI. I think it is time for the WBCCI Borard of Directors to wake up.

Thanks to those who corrected this misperception!

Don Shafer, current WBCCI President never said this!!!
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Being only 60, and the first of the baby boomers, we are among the youngest in our unit. We enjoy everyone, regardless of age and computer literacy. I have no idea what their position on wearing a beret is and I don't really care.

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We will complete our 2nd year of membership in 2007 and my wife has asked that we NOT renew. As the above quote implies this gentleman is 60 and considered the baby. During our last rally someone approached me and pointed out that I was the youngest member of the unit (age 46). Ouch!!

I love the people but find the camping locations we go to as quite boring. I've offered that we should try some informal 'rallys' during our off months so no takers. I've approached 2 presidents about having our rallies at places that don't have a hall. This is because having a hall forces our hand about where we can go. Sorry but playing cards isn't my bag, but sitting around a campfire and visiting is.

My parents always taught me to be part of the solution however after 2 years my initiative to do this is gone. Maybe we'll rejoin once we hit 60!

Best of luck to WBCCI. Bring on those state parks and the great outdoors
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