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Old 07-22-2009, 08:39 PM   #161
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Old 07-26-2009, 12:56 PM   #162
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Uh, Tom. . .

A few points. . .
  1. This issue is DARN NEAR A YEAR OLD and ancient history by now. How about letting sleeping dogs lie?
  2. Jerry Larson isn't president of the WBCCI any more. Perhaps you heard the WBCCI just had an International Rally and installed new officers. (The International also gave people who are inclined to bitch a whole new set of issues to bitch about.)
  3. And finally, the Hearing Board had the authority to uphold or reverse Bob Thompson's suspension, but aside from that, NO AUTHORITY TO ORDER ANYBODY TO DO ANYTHING.
To briefly review these year-old issues, a WBCCI past president filed grievances against Bob Thompson, Region 1 President and Leo G arvey, Metro NY Unit President, for what most perceived to be political reasons.

The Ethics and Grievance committee suspended Bob Thompson and this set off a firestorm of protests from the membership. Realizing the disciplinary action was a mistake, then-WBCCI president Jerry Larson, in what I think was a statesmanlike move, appointed a Hearing Board of three trustees who could be expected to overturn the suspension, which they did.

Section 4 of the Bylaws gives the Hearing Board this power, and no other. I think it was nice of the Hearing Board to include an apology in their written opinion, but they had no authority to order it be published or anything else.

Chastened by the Bob Thompson outcome, the Ethics and Grievance committee wisely decided to dismiss the grievance against Leo G arvey, and at that point the case was closed.

So this whole Bob Thompson--No Apology thread has never had any legal or factual basis, and it's time to lay it to rest.
Actually it needs to continue until the apologists' for the power structure stop making excuses for the bad manners of others. This was and is part of an ongoing struggle.

Charter One: New England Unit (Region 1) officers denied admission to International in Georgia because of the campaigning of a few well placed individual members. Some no doubt jealous of the success of the NEU.

Charter Two: Bob Thompson suspended just as the Region 1 rally, which he put together, was getting started in PEI. He is a NEU member.

Charter Three: The VAC's recent actions at International on behalf of the IBT, the treatment of the WDCU and Mr Baker. Another "too" successful unit.

The forum makes public what the "leadership" wants behind closed doors.

Attendance will be down alot more next year.
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1.Uh, Tom. . .


2.And finally, the Hearing Board had the authority to uphold or reverse Bob Thompson's suspension, but aside from that, NO AUTHORITY TO ORDER ANYBODY TO DO ANYTHING.

Section 4 of the Bylaws gives the Hearing Board this power, and no other. I think it was nice of the Hearing Board to include an apology in their written opinion, but they had no authority to order it be published or anything else.

Wrong!!!

Sec. 4. F. Upon conclusion of any such hearing, the hearing board, by resolution, shall render a judgmentin writing based upon the written record and upon the evidence presented to it at such hearing. Such judgment may affirm, overrule or modify any judgment previously taken on the complaint and any such judgment so rendered shall be final and conclusive.

Thus the Appeals Board did in fact have full authority to order it's Judgment to be
Published in the BB. Also read the fine print in the RONR and it Supports the Boards action and decisions (Judgment).

So this whole Bob Thompson--No Apology thread has never had any legal or factual basis, and it's time to lay it to rest.


If you are an attorney, go back to law school, if not don’t attempt to practice law with a license. As to the facts, it is suggested you read the other Bob Thompson thread or read SaveWally.org on the same subject. Bob is only part of the story. There are others and the problem continues.
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