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04-14-2018, 06:02 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2004 28' International CCD
1948 22' Liner
1963 22' Safari
Oakland
, Florida
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 288
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Good decision, David!
Sometimes we just know when to throw money at certain tasks. Just like we did on our Liner frame. You'll now be content knowing that task is in the hands of a professional. Now that we have our frame MrRivet and I now know it really was the best decision. 'I KNOW A GUY' isn't always a bad thing. Which by the way has become a game. Anytime in conversation when someone says 'I KNOW A GUY' take a sip of your beverage. Hopefully you'll have an adult beverage handy. Surprising how many times that line can be said in conversation once you pay attention. So don't cringe the next time you hear it!
Enjoy your adventure to the southwest! You'll have a relaxing time while you are Living the Dream. Cant wait to see more progress once you return. And I'm sure you'll meet a few 'guys' along the way.
Cheers!
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04-14-2018, 06:25 PM
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#122
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Rivet Master
1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,289
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"I know a guy" is likely how Angie's List started. We are always looking for references to someone that can do the job. If this fellow I lift my bath parts with executes like he says he will, I won't hesitate to say "I know a guy".
The fellow who helped me out with my axles is on my "I know a guy list." He did exactly what he said he would, and he is a heck of a nice guy. I don't hesitate to recommend Luke Bernader if you need your axles replaced.
David
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04-15-2018, 07:22 AM
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#123
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
1995 34' Excella
Lynchburg
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,225
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David
I agree with MsRivet, good decision, based on your painting skills.
Have fun on your adventure trip to the SW.
Dan
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04-27-2018, 06:24 PM
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#124
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Rivet Master
1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,289
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No Overlander improvement progress the last two weeks. We're traveling in the Limited through New Mexico, Arizona, California, and now Utah. I wanted to see the desert. I don't think I'll be back anytime soon. Too hot, dry and desolate for me.
I did spot a buffalo along the side of the road. That was exciting.
Maybe my bathroom parts will be painted glossy white when I get back. If so, I can start reassembling the bath. You are right TouringDan, surface finishing just isn't my thing.
David
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05-07-2018, 06:12 PM
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#125
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Rivet Master
1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,289
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Out with the Galley Wall
We're back from out trip to the southwest. We felt coming home to Colorado was the best part of the trip. Then we had 10" of wet, heavy snow last week. Refreshing after 95 degrees and windy weather we were in.
As most of you know Overlanders had a gas oven mounted in the galley wall. It's an idea that didn't catch on at Airstream. I guess the idea provided more storage under the galley countertop. The furnace is under the cooktop, not the oven. Wall mounted ovens were becoming popular in homes back then.
I decided to replace the galley wall instead of hanging a picture or something over the oven hole. And I didn't like the oven "box" over the curb side twin bed. It is interesting to see all the attachment points Airstream assemblers installed to hold up the overhead lockers, countertop and the accordian door "header" into this galley wall. Lots of screws and rivets, including "blind" rivets. Maybe "blind" rivets happen because Airstream assembles some parts before the whole thing comes together.
I can use the old wall as a pattern. I learned the "wood" in my Overlander is melamine laminated over MDF at about 3/16" total thickness. My trailer's walls have a texture to them like a wood grain. And I don't have any delamination except in a few slats of the trambor doors.
I will replace the galley wall with a red oak veneer on MDF, both sides. The grain structure and color are similar, but not exact. It is the best match I found. Melamine laminates of the same color and texture were not available where I shopped.
Still waiting on my bathroom parts. Maybe Wednesday he says.
David
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05-07-2018, 06:20 PM
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#126
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Rivet Master
1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,289
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Window Operator Handle Needed
I need a couple of window operators for my trailer. Anyone know a source for this part, photo below? I need just the plastic part. Appreciate any advice.
David
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05-09-2018, 06:05 PM
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#127
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Rivet Master
1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,289
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Bathroom Parts now Painted
Today I picked up my bath plastic parts from a small, local body shop. I had them painted with single stage automotive paint designed for plastic bumpers and the like.
The professional prep and spray painting was worth it. The parts look great and ought to last a long time. I opted for "toilet white" as it looks clean and we will have enough accents in the bathroom to draw attention from all the while, such as the shower curtain, the window curtain, towels, toilet lid cover, and the like.
Now I can start working to reassemble the rear bath and do a thorough test of the plumbing and holding tanks.
David
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05-09-2018, 06:38 PM
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NO HUMBLE OPINION
1968 20' Globetrotter
ANN ARBOR
, THE GREAT LAKES
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 665
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Looks great, What a relief to get past the bath paint, eh!
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05-09-2018, 07:07 PM
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#129
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Rivet Master
1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,289
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What a relief that I didn't paint them. At least that's what the wife says. Hey, I can shake a rattle can with the best of them. And I can generate orange peal, runs, globs, thin spots, and other defects with ease. And I can fling paint with a brush and add brush marks to my list of defects.
These parts actually look good to the wife. She like them. What a relief, until the credit card bill come due. Then I will get it with both barrels; Bam! Bam!
David
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05-10-2018, 02:38 PM
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#130
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4 Rivet Member
1967 26' Overlander
Haute-Aboujagane
, New Brunswick
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 255
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They look good! You are getting ahead of us on the renovation race .We got slowed down when we opted for shiny interior skins lol. But that means we will be able to learn from you as we get to the next step.
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05-10-2018, 05:56 PM
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#131
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Rivet Master
1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,289
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I plan on polishing next winter. It is one of the last steps for me, but well worth it. I admire some of the old Overlanders that have been polished. They look great. My exterior skins are in pretty good condition, just well oxidized.
David
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05-11-2018, 05:42 AM
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#132
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4 Rivet Member
2004 28' International CCD
1948 22' Liner
1963 22' Safari
Oakland
, Florida
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 288
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dbj216
What a relief that I didn't paint them. At least that's what the wife says. Hey, I can shake a rattle can with the best of them. And I can generate orange peal, runs, globs, thin spots, and other defects with ease. And I can fling paint with a brush and add brush marks to my list of defects.
These parts actually look good to the wife. She like them. What a relief, until the credit card bill come due. Then I will get it with both barrels; Bam! Bam!
David
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David!
The parts look amazing! I too can do all those painting techniques with ease! Plus wear the paint like famous artwork not to mention how my black labs look after a painting project. That's a lab?! I never fail to impress myself with that talent.
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05-11-2018, 05:55 AM
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#133
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
1995 34' Excella
Lynchburg
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,225
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David
The plastic parts look new, possibly even better than new in 1975. A great decision on your part.
Dan
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05-11-2018, 05:56 PM
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#134
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Rivet Master
1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,289
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Thank you fellow vintage Airstreamers. Actually, the photos are flattering to the parts. You can still see the tub leak repairs, cracks in the counter tops, and the like in real life. Why couldn't my driver's license picture been equally flattering.
The parts are better than they were. No stains, no chalky white paint, and a nice gloss on the parts. I'm anxious to start assembling the bathroom.
But first the galley wall.
David
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05-11-2018, 06:08 PM
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#135
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Rivet Master
1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,289
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New Galley Wall Cut
I found a good red oak laminate that has similar grain structure to the melimine that the trailer interior is made of. I want to rid my trailer of the "oven in the wall" with the "oven box" over the bed.
I used the old wall as a template. I simply cut a new wall less the oven hole out of the red oak laminate. I will keep the 115vAC outlet in this wall. I'm using a "wipe on poly" that isn't a stain and is satin in texture. My test pieces indicate it will match pretty well.
I'll install the new wall this weekend.
Then on to the bathroom.
David
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05-19-2018, 05:34 PM
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#136
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Rivet Master
1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,289
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Working on the Bath Tub
I've struggled with the bathtub platform. The old one was not in good shape. I carefully measured the height of the top of the platform, and measured the "slope" Airstream built into it so the water would run to the drain. Seems easy enough, but for whatever reason it has taken way longer than it should have.
It is done finally. I test fitted the tub, shower valve side piece, and the countertop and the parts all stack up the way they should.
The wall between the tub and bedroom is that melamine stuff. It too was kinda in sad shape. So I removed that wall and decided I should replace it with a piece of Fiberglass Reinforced Plastic designed as a shower wall.
With the wall out, I could see why my pocket door was sticky. The header had came loose, maybe due to vibrations. The pocket door weight was on the bottom guide. I'll have to figure a way to re-hang the header so the door isn't dragging on the bottom guide.
A easy sliding pocket door is an improvement, right?
David
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05-20-2018, 07:49 AM
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#137
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4 Rivet Member
1956 22' Safari
1962 28' Ambassador
Williston
, Vermont
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 493
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Hi David, Just found your thread and am looking forward to following along. I just hope I can be as encouraging and helpful as you have been to my rebuild.
Mark
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05-20-2018, 06:15 PM
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#138
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Rivet Master
1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,289
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Hi Mark: Thanks for taking a look at my "improvements" thread and for your kind words. We motorheads gotta stick together. I think I told you I met a fella here in Conifer with a Caterham Super Seven in his garage. I'm going to beg a ride this summer.
My project is less involved than yours. I believe I will have a "improved" Overlander when I'm done. Having your expertise close by will be helpful.
David
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05-20-2018, 06:25 PM
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#139
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Rivet Master
1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,289
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Bath Pocket Door Support
I was perplexed to find the "stud" between the bedroom and bathroom walls was 4" short of the pocket door "header". The only thing I can see holding the pocket door "header" up was one rivet in the bedroom wall overhead cabinet. That rivet had pulled out and the header drooped down allowing the pocket door weight to ride on the bottom "guide".
This original "stud" was a piece of 3/4 plywood ripped to 1 3/4 wide and about 68" long. You can see it in the photo a couple of posts down. It runs parallel to the vent pipe. It acts as a "stop" for the pocket door. It was warped and weak.
So I'm replacing this vertical wall stud with one that goes from floor to pocket door header. My trial fit today demonstrates a one finger easy operation of the pocket door.
David
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05-21-2018, 07:28 PM
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#140
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Rivet Master
1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,289
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Here is a photo of the Airstream "stud" used as a stop for the pocket door. I laid the old stud next to the new one I installed this afternoon. The new one supports the pocket door header, including the track the door rollers ride in.
You can see how the old stud was just a ripped piece of plywood and never reached the pocket door header, about 4" short. I don't understand why it was made this way. I think the new stud will offer support, will stiffen the 1/4" plywood walls some, and certainly stop the pocket door. Maybe I will find out why it was made this way later on in my project and have to tear it all apart again.
The door works good, the bedroom wall is straight. Improvement #59 done.
David
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