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Old 02-25-2019, 06:27 AM   #81
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I'm on the way back from a weekend drive to Kansas. When we lived there I learned that "average" temperature may not save you. There was an air leak at just the wrong place in the garage. If the wind blew strong enough from the wrong direction .... no water in the master bathroom. The garage didn't get below freezing .... the pipe did ....

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Old 02-25-2019, 11:07 AM   #82
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I'm on the way back from a weekend drive to Kansas. When we lived there I learned that "average" temperature may not save you. There was an air leak at just the wrong place in the garage. If the wind blew strong enough from the wrong direction .... no water in the master bathroom. The garage didn't get below freezing .... the pipe did ....

Bob


Good point Bob. It is often said that wind chill doesn’t effect anything but people. But as you found and air leak in the wrong place on a building or motorhome can cause a freeze if wind chills the weak link.
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Old 02-25-2019, 11:21 AM   #83
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A few days ago, it was still winter with over 8" of snow. Winter's last hurrah. Now temps are ramping up to 60's.

This is my AI 1st winter. Looking back at my inside cabin temp history, it never got lower than 47° F inside the AI, even though outdoor (outside of garage) temps hit below 32° F overnight many times. It is not heated but it only has 1 wall adjacent to outside (and it's an insulated garage door, facing east). The north, south, west walls are sharing indoor living space. As reference, it was a cold Feb. winter. So it looks like I won't need to winterize (the indoor plumbing), maybe just winterizing the 3 tanks and undercarriage plumbing - under normal conditions. But I still plan to winterize annually just to be safe However, it is nice to know keeping it inside makes a big difference.

ALEX - what are you using to track those temps? I looked back through this thread and didn’t find them mentioned. Looks like it would be s great tool to monitor my van when parked in driveway during winter months here in Maryland.
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Old 02-25-2019, 11:41 AM   #84
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I'm on the way back from a weekend drive to Kansas. When we lived there I learned that "average" temperature may not save you. There was an air leak at just the wrong place in the garage. If the wind blew strong enough from the wrong direction .... no water in the master bathroom. The garage didn't get below freezing .... the pipe did ....

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Good point Bob. It is often said that wind chill doesn’t effect anything but people. But as you found and air leak in the wrong place on a building or motorhome can cause a freeze if wind chills the weak link.
UNCLEBOB, MIKE - Yeah, found this out the hard way when I lived in SF Bay Area 25 yrs ago. Because it hardly freezes there, most water mains (even new construction) comes up about 2ft. from ground near driveway into garage. They don't insulate them One very windy winter night, even though it was above 32° , the main started to freeze. Luckily, I caught it in time
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ALEX - what are you using to track those temps? I looked back through this thread and didn’t find them mentioned. Looks like it would be s great tool to monitor my van when parked in driveway during winter months here in Maryland.
This LaCrosse unit works great FYI:

https://www.amazon.com/Crosse-Techno...H7NRJ5J3FP7RSY

Monitors three locations, inexpensive, stores recent Hi/Low, and lithium batteries last forever. Lower tech than the photo Alex posted before -- must use human bio-computer.

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Old 02-25-2019, 12:43 PM   #86
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ALEX - what are you using to track those temps? I looked back through this thread and didn’t find them mentioned. Looks like it would be s great tool to monitor my van when parked in driveway during winter months here in Maryland.


I use a couple of these data loggers - I drop one in the battery box, and keep another one inside the rig. You can download the data to a computer via USB.

https://www.elitechustore.com/Temper...4aAtMAEALw_wcB
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I live in Tucson AZ where temperatures rarely get dangerously low. Unfortunately a cold spell blew through here around a month ago and froze the outdoor faucet, which revealed itself as intermittent cycling of the water pump and some drips in the vicinity outside. UGH. $240 later.
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ALEX - what are you using to track those temps? I looked back through this thread and didn’t find them mentioned. Looks like it would be s great tool to monitor my van when parked in driveway during winter months here in Maryland.
MIKE - I lifted it off of the WACHUKO List. I first saw it when he posted the purchase.

SensorPush Wireless Thermometer/Hygrometer for iPhone/Android - Humidity & Temperature Smart Sensor. It's $49 at Amazon.

I knew WACHUKO liked it. So I ordered one for the fridge and started using since July. I thought that by now it would've overwritten it's memory. But everytime I download info from it to my smartphone, it still has all the data from July. I have not investigated if it is using memory from my phone to keep part of the old info. It is bluetooth and you can buy the optional WiFi module so the sensor(s) can be queried remotely. Or the sensor alerts can be setup to send to your device provided it has internet access. The account includes cloud service for free, so all your devices logged in to account can receive alerts. I liked it so much, I bought a 2nd one for van interior. Now I am going to get a 3rd one for the undercarriage and get the WiFi module.
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ALEX - thanks for the details. Looks like a great system. I could keep sensor in our home while traveling. Then have a sensor in van to track temperatures during winter when parked in my driveway.
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Old 09-06-2020, 02:07 PM   #90
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Colorado is expecting 26 Degree low in September.Do I winterize for only one cold day

Hi All,

Living here in Colorado you never know what to expect with the weather. We are experiencing 100 degree weather yesterday and today but it is expected to go to 26 degrees on Tuesday evening. Crazy. We were planning to winterize at the end of September as we have a couple more trips we would like to do.

We have a 2017 Interstate GT. So how should I plan for these wild fluctuations. Hate to winterize if the weather will be warm again. I would hate it even more if something freezes. I do have tank heaters and will be connected to shore power while during this stretch

Any strategies you can help with home and while boon docking on the road?

Thanks all again,

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We occasionally get high 20s here in the Austin area. I turn on the fresh tank heater since I always keep some water in it. If the black tank is not empty, that heater goes on, as well. I run a small ceramic heater in the coach. All blinds down and the cover on the windshield. Many years, that is all I need to do.

If the forecast is much lower than that, then, I blow out the lines and empty the tanks.
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