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Old 10-22-2019, 06:59 PM   #41
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You may want to invest in a Roadmaster Guardian towing shield to keep the front of your toad looking good. For my first several years of pulling a toad, I didn't use one, and didn't miss it. But after needing some front-end body work on my toad earlier this year following a drive through a construction zone while pulling the toad, I decided that it was time to start using the towing shield. You would be surprised at what your Interstate's tires can throw up onto the front end of your toad!


Storing the Guardian when it is not in use is somewhat problematic, though. You can get brackets to store it on the back of your Interstate while in the campground, but you can't drive around in your Interstate with the Guardian stored there, because it would cover the Interstate's license plate.
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Old 10-22-2019, 11:30 PM   #42
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The whole "trailer vs. notorhome" issue is always going to be an issue, because trailer owners don't understand why motorhome owners want to own motorhomes. But there's enough room in the RV community— and the Airstream community— for all of us. Otherwise Airstream wouldn't even make motorhomes.

Anyway "trailer vs. motorhome" is not what this thread is about. It's about "Class B with toad vs. Class B without toad." I had multiple reasons for wanting a Class B motorhome instead of a trailer, and my own reasons for wanting a toad to go along with the Class B, as I've already revealed in this and other threads. I have nothing against travel trailers. But they're not for me, and never will be. And I'm not going to give up my toad and use my Interstate as my only vehicle just because some trailer owner doesn't understand why I want to have a toad.

In the overall scheme of things, recommending an SUV and trailer to someone who already bought a Class B doesn't help anybody. Not us, not you either. And I really wish that trailer owners would quit trying to convert us Class B owners into trailer owners too.


I guess it’s hard for a trailer owner not to be puzzled when when they read this thread. I guess I could see why someone might want to tow a motorcycle or a boat but wouldn’t towing a car defeat the purpose of getting an Interstate in the first place? Would it not make more sense to tow another Interstate ? Think about it , if you break down the other one takes over and you will never be stuck. You will also enjoy eating, resting and bathroom breaks. People on the road would look at you and go “ wow”.
If you travel with your partner and you get into an argument each one can sleep in their own interstate.
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Old 10-23-2019, 06:04 AM   #43
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I installed the Roadmaster Tow Defender. It protects the toad from things thrown up by the Interstate but not from other vehicles.

It stows very nicely rolled up behind the coach.
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Old 10-23-2019, 09:09 AM   #44
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I guess I could see why someone might want to tow a motorcycle or a boat but wouldn’t towing a car defeat the purpose of getting an Interstate in the first place?
No, it doesn't defeat the purpose. I live on the Gulf Coast, and in the event of a hurricane evacuation, if I didn't have a toad, I'd have to evacuate in my Interstate and leave my daily driver behind. With a toad, I can evacuate with both vehicles. Unless the Interstate is one's ONLY vehicle, it just makes sense that one's other vehicle(s) be towable in case of emergency. And just last week, I saw a Sprinter van (not an Interstate) towing a pickup which in turn was towing a subcompact, in a tandem tow. I think they might have been exceeding the Sprinter's rated towing capacity, but in an emergency I'd try that if I had three vehicles that I had to move by myself.

But there is another consideration. If one plans to only stop for a night or two and then move on, a toad is superfluous and can be left at home. Sometimes I travel like that. But other times, I want to park for a week or two and explore the surroundings in something smaller that's easier to park and gets better fuel economy. A toad comes in handy then.

Having a toad doesn't mean ALWAYS using the toad! But not having a toad means NEVER using a toad. At least I have the option whether to use it or not.
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I know you're being sarcastic. But I'll answer anyway. An Interstate doesn't have enough towing capacity to tow another Interstate. However, I have seen Interstates being used as a towing vehicle for an Airstream trailer.
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If you travel with your partner and you get into an argument each one can sleep in their own interstate.
Not all of us are lucky enough to HAVE partners. I travel solo about 98% of the time, if you don't count my cats.
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No, it doesn't defeat the purpose. I live on the Gulf Coast, and in the event of a hurricane evacuation, if I didn't have a toad, I'd have to evacuate in my Interstate and leave my daily driver behind. With a toad, I can evacuate with both vehicles. Unless the Interstate is one's ONLY vehicle, it just makes sense that one's other vehicle(s) be towable in case of emergency. And just last week, I saw a Sprinter van (not an Interstate) towing a pickup which in turn was towing a subcompact, in a tandem tow. I think they might have been exceeding the Sprinter's rated towing capacity, but in an emergency I'd try that if I had three vehicles that I had to move by myself.

But there is another consideration. If one plans to only stop for a night or two and then move on, a toad is superfluous and can be left at home. Sometimes I travel like that. But other times, I want to park for a week or two and explore the surroundings in something smaller that's easier to park and gets better fuel economy. A toad comes in handy then.

Having a toad doesn't mean ALWAYS using the toad! But not having a toad means NEVER using a toad. At least I have the option whether to use it or not.I know you're being sarcastic. But I'll answer anyway. An Interstate doesn't have enough towing capacity to tow another Interstate. However, I have seen Interstates being used as a towing vehicle for an Airstream trailer.Not all of us are lucky enough to HAVE partners. I travel solo about 98% of the time, if you don't count my cats.


Alright I was being sarcastic and I see your folks point
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Old 10-23-2019, 09:47 AM   #46
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Protag hit it on the spot.

I don't always use the toad. I spent two weeks on the road without it last month. I used the complementary taxi at two casinos, had pizza delivered at another. Other spots were with family with multiple cars available. At still other places, I could park close to attractions. I did move the AI once after stopping for the night to visit a favorite Chinese buffet. In two weeks, I never missed the toad. OTOH, tomorrow we leave for an "Urban Rally." Many different activities are spread across the city we are visiting. At 87, I don't walk far and I hate to depend on others. The toad will go with me, even though it is only 4 days.

I owned three Airstream trailers over about 20 years. I find the AI perfect for my last years of travel. The toad sure beats a 2500HD diesel as a way to get around.
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The new Fiesta toad towed perfectly for our 420-mile round trip. I can feel it is heavier than the smart. I could not see the smart except on the camera. I can see the driver's side mirror of the Fiesta in my side mirror.

I just came in from my unheated workshop. I spent some time drilling new pinholes in my 4" adapter for my tow car. I was able to move the adapter 4" forward to reduce the overhang a bit and have the new toad follow me that much closer. I would have preferred a 21/32" bit, but all I had in the shop was a 5/8". I may need to open up the hole a tiny bit when I fit it to the AI.

It is 55 degrees here at 1 PM after a night well down in the 30s. The workshop interior is well enough insulated that it had not warmed up much from the night. The steel adapter spent the night outdoors and was plenty cold. I used plenty of cutting oil. I didn't need to worry about a hot drill bit.
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