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Old 05-30-2023, 10:10 AM   #1
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Replacing Backup Camera AI 2015

Hey all,

I did a search but couldn't find out the info that I am needing. Hoping someone can help me out.

Im in the process of replacing my failing backup camera. It came with a crappy Pyle screen attached to the rear view mirror. I have a pioneer 1400NEX that came installed as well, so I attached the Camera RCA to the 1400NEX and got an image to appear, but the camera image was as crappy as on the Pyle.

So, I bought a new generic camera (that I've used on other vehicles without issue) and had to "splice" in the camera to the wires but couldn't get any signal to the Pioneer head unit. The wires on the camera are black, Red, Yellow, Orange, Green and White. The wires on the OG cable coming out of the roof are Shield, Red, Yellow and Blue. I know that the Yellow is the camera signal, and that the red is the + and black/blue is the negative. I tried every other combo with the other wheres but cannot get a signal to the head unit.

I believe that when pulling the wire to do the splice, I may have pulled apart the tiny connector that most likely came with the original PYLE setup. Or maybe the 1400NEX cannot support this particular video signal? Looking at upgrading the head unit to a ATOTO Series8.

Has anyone taken apart the inside of their AI to show the wires going out to the camera?

Has anyone successfully ran new camera cables from the rear to the front? Could you share your experience or any knowledge?
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Old 05-30-2023, 02:01 PM   #2
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Hi TravelerX.

I have fiddled under the back storage area a few times. I initially removed the camera during our solar upgrade as I used that entry point on the roof to install our solar combiner box and cut the camera cable to install it. When I put it back together, I forgot to splice in the drain wire and had the same problem as you. Initially I didn't see it as the wire is so fine and thought nothing of it. After trouble shooting and pulling back the plastic on the cable, I figured it out.

The drain wire is part of the shielded cable core wires for grounding and needs to be spliced as well. Hopefully this is the same problem that you're encountering and an easy fix. I've attached some pictures of both the camera and monitor with their cables coming out. I also took a close up pic of the drain wire.

I had our audio guy replace the camera with a newer Sprinter camera which is tied to our Alpine Halo headhunt. I think that he used the same cable for it.

I was thinking of running a new wire from front to back for a newer dash cam that has front and back cameras that come with a rear view mirror as the display for the cameras. A lot of fishing and can be done but I just haven't felt that motivated to take on the project just yet.

If you need any of these parts in the picture, just PM and I' can get them in the mail to you.

Good luck!
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Old 05-31-2023, 07:59 AM   #3
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Thanks so much for your response to my thread.

Wen you say "drain wire" - what does that mean? It all looks like shielded cable fray to me? Do you know when it needs to connect to? Does it connect to ground?


From OG Wiring ..................... new camera

Blue .................................. Black

Red .................................. Red

Yellow. ................................... Yellow

Shield (Drain?) ......................... ??

? .......................... Green

? .......................... Orange

? .......................... White


Thanks again for your response and offer to send parts. Im looking at installing a new 10" head unit as well and just want to make sure the camera wiring works first.
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Old 05-31-2023, 02:30 PM   #4
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We’re referring to the same wire. What I’m calling the drain wire or your “shielded cable fray” is the same wire that I’m talking about. I cut the cable and spliced the wires back together initially without making that drain wire hole again with a splice and the camera did not work. After I spliced the drain wire back together it worked. I didn’t do much research on what the wire colors were as I was just splicing the cable back together at the time.

I refer it to it as the drain wire as its purpose is to help reduce the amount of electrical noise impacting the copper conductors inside the cabling while creating a ground to offload small electrical surges. However, the drain wire is not a ground wire.
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Hey all,

I did a search but couldn't find out the info that I am needing. Hoping someone can help me out.

Im in the process of replacing my failing backup camera. It came with a crappy Pyle screen attached to the rear view mirror. I have a pioneer 1400NEX that came installed as well, so I attached the Camera RCA to the 1400NEX and got an image to appear, but the camera image was as crappy as on the Pyle.

So, I bought a new generic camera (that I've used on other vehicles without issue) and had to "splice" in the camera to the wires but couldn't get any signal to the Pioneer head unit. The wires on the camera are black, Red, Yellow, Orange, Green and White. The wires on the OG cable coming out of the roof are Shield, Red, Yellow and Blue. I know that the Yellow is the camera signal, and that the red is the + and black/blue is the negative. I tried every other combo with the other wheres but cannot get a signal to the head unit.

I believe that when pulling the wire to do the splice, I may have pulled apart the tiny connector that most likely came with the original PYLE setup. Or maybe the 1400NEX cannot support this particular video signal? Looking at upgrading the head unit to a ATOTO Series8.

Has anyone taken apart the inside of their AI to show the wires going out to the camera?

Has anyone successfully ran new camera cables from the rear to the front? Could you share your experience or any knowledge?

To your question of the wires leading out the back of the rig to the camera/brake-light assembly; yes, I did this today in my attempt to install an aftermarker rear camera/brake-light...here is exactly what you get (in a 2017/18 AIGT):

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Now to my question; does anyone know how to marry these two wire assemblies together? (shown below). Coming out of the aftermarket rear camera/brake-light assembly is a set of black & red wires and two RCA connectors.

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Before throwing in the towel and reaching out to one of several local shops that I presume could make easy (but not cheap) work of this install, I wanted to see if the Airstream Nation had some guidance and/or encouragement that this could be DIY'd, or am I best to leave this to someone professionally trained to execute(?)

This "Installation" document came with the aftermarket camera/brake-light assembly. https://www.amazon.com/KOHNEASO-Back...0B823NZ1L&th=1

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PS - This install came to a hard stop & abort this afternoon when I discovered that the wiring part of this task was not a simply "plug & play". I reassembled the OEM camera/brake-light assembly back onto my rig to contemplate my next move.
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