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Old 07-23-2018, 10:54 AM   #1
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Random questions - propane refill, metal stem valves installed, etc.?

Not sure if anyone else is in the DFW area... but looking for some recommendations on getting a few things done.

Valve Stems/TPMS
I bought the metal stem valves from Wachku's list but haven't gotten them installed. Where did you guys get this done? At the RV Dealer, Discount Tire, Freightliner, etc? There is a Premier Truck Group in south Dallas or Tulsa.

I haven't bought the TPMS yet... on the list but same place as above should be able to install or is it a easy DYI. I know the wheels need to be balanced after the install so do all at same time? Also want to get alignment done.


Propane

So need to refill the propane tank... Did an online search and it looks like UHaul places sell propane near me. Any concerns with using a UHaul for propane refill? They list is as tank refill and alternative vehicle fuel. Is our scenario considered a tank refill? The pics make it look like they are expecting a BBQ propane tank.

Solar/Etc.

Any body have any work done in the DFW area? Want to add 300w of solar and swap out the BIM, etc. Not sure I am comfortable doing it solo. There is a Coach Specialist of Texas near me. Not sure they do Solar though. Someone mentioned Lew stopped in Tulsa so reached out to him as well.

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Old 07-23-2018, 12:46 PM   #2
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A competent tire shop can install the valve stems, just be sure to ask them to follow the included instructions to the letter. TPMS is DIY.
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I’ve had propane filled at UHaul many times, with no problems.

If you are not sure they can fill an onboard tank, I would call them first.

UHaul propane tends to be more expensive than at a commercial propane supplier, but is often all that is available in an area...when I can find suburban propane or something similar I use them.

Once I was not informed of a minimum $20 charge at a UHaul, until after my few gallons had been filled, which was very annoying.

I had been directed from outside to the propane fill in the rear of their area, the minimum charge sign being in the office and not seen by me until I went in to pay.

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I used to use Uhaul at 635 and Garland Road in Garland/Dallas area for propane full all the time no problems.
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You have two Tractor Supply Stores in Plano (or near-by). They fill any propane tank and have good prices.

900 Westgate Way, Wylie, TX 75098
Hours: Open ⋅ Closes 9PM
Phone: (972) 429-3777

3350 North Central Expy Us 75, McKinney, TX 75071
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I had the same question when it came time to fill the tank... ended up going to U-Haul as well, only because it was 5 minutes away. I had the same concerns you mentioned... but the hose that fills the small tanks is the same one they use to fill the AI... they just remove the adapter used for the tanks.
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Tire shop in our town was able to put in the valve stems... easy retrofit according to them.

U-Haul has filled our propane tanks - just make sure the store you go to has propane... one we tried didn’t as it was an “affiliate” location.

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Not sure if anyone else is in the DFW area... but looking for some recommendations on getting a few things done.

Valve Stems/TPMS
I bought the metal stem valves from Wachku's list but haven't gotten them installed. Where did you guys get this done? At the RV Dealer, Discount Tire, Freightliner, etc? There is a Premier Truck Group in south Dallas or Tulsa.

I haven't bought the TPMS yet... on the list but same place as above should be able to install or is it a easy DYI. I know the wheels need to be balanced after the install so do all at same time? Also want to get alignment done. This is not a do it yourself job as it requires un-mounting and mounting the tires on the rim.


Propane

So need to refill the propane tank... Did an online search and it looks like UHaul places sell propane near me. Any concerns with using a UHaul for propane refill? They list is as tank refill and alternative vehicle fuel. Is our scenario considered a tank refill? The pics make it look like they are expecting a BBQ propane tank.

Solar/Etc.

Any body have any work done in the DFW area? Want to add 300w of solar and swap out the BIM, etc. Not sure I am comfortable doing it solo. There is a Coach Specialist of Texas near me. Not sure they do Solar though. Someone mentioned Lew stopped in Tulsa so reached out to him as well.

Thanks,

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Valve Stems/TPMS

Any decent tire shop can install them. Nothing special about it. Balance after. Definitely not Premier, who will simply send you to a tire shop they use.

Propane

Almost every city or town has a propane dealer and they know what your need and how to fill it. Google for a dealer (propane dealer and your city or town). I don't know of any issue with UHaul, but I would prefer a dedicated propane dealer. Sometimes having someone who knows what they are doing can see things others can't (like, in my case, a hose from the factory that had debris in it and was clogging the line when they attempted to fill it.

Solar/Etc.

I personally wouldn't trust any RV dealer to do a decent job installing solar. I had a horrible experience with Camping World simply installing a new AC and I would be concerned they wouldn't know what they are doing, or how to do it, and leaving you to figure that out later. If you can find someone who had the work done perhaps a good referral would work out. But none that I can recommend besides AM Solar and they are a long way from Texas.

I'm in the middle of a 300 watt (3 panel) upgrade on my 2011 Interstate, and while it is labor intensive, it's not that technically difficult. Besides figuring out what you need (AM Solar can help advise you) the hardest part is prepping the roof by removing the old panel and TV antenna, cleaning up the old Sika adhesive, and plugging the holes with Sika 221, No drilling (well, at least for the panels) is needed. Running wires, and all the other stuff is just a matter of labor and figuring out where you want to mount the solar controller and monitors. Probably the hardest part is mounting the battery monitor and MPPT controller (which is optional) on the panel, and I'm having someone with better wood working skills than me do that.

Lew is a good choice, but because it is very labor intensive, his services, while well deserved are not cheap. I also reached out to him but decided to simply do it myself because of the cost.

I'd be glad to give you some advice if you want to consider doing it yourself.
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On the valve stems: I have had problems with my new clamp-on air fill chuck holding on my new metal stems. Not very handy because you have to hold the chuck while getting the exact air pressure you want. Apparently, the exterior threads on the stems that hold the cap on are not long enough for the clamp to grab. Be sue you buy stems with long enough threads to hold the clamp-on if you plan to use one. Has anybody else noticed this problem?

Also, ACE Hardware stores have propane. but be sure to ask about price first as they are individually owned and prices vary accordingly.
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On the valve stems: I have had problems with my new clamp-on air fill chuck holding on my new metal stems. Not very handy because you have to hold the chuck while getting the exact air pressure you want. Apparently, the exterior threads on the stems that hold the cap on are not long enough for the clamp to grab. Be sue you buy stems with long enough threads to hold the clamp-on if you plan to use one. Has anybody else noticed this problem?

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I use the ARB ARB605 Blue Inflator with Gauge and Braided Hose with these as well... no issues...

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Old 07-24-2018, 01:58 PM   #12
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I went a little nuts and bought this digital inflator.

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Not sure why, but your post reminded me that I forgot to order a set of the Knipex pliers wrench... recommended in another thread...
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What GMillerOK1 said regarding solar. I completed a self-install of solar on my 2005 Safari 25 this spring. Got two 170W panels, BM, MPPT controller, wires, junction box, etc. from AM Solar. Very helpful sales and technical support staff during my install. Very happy with performance of the system. Most of my use is boondocking. My 12V system is performing well, batteries rarely below 90% (although the real test will be in the fall when I'm using the heat).

You can hunt down the components and put together a system for less than you can buy from AM Solar, but it gave me confidence to know that the components were matched and the support I got was invaluable.

By the way, I put no holes in the roof. Mounted panels and junction box with 3M VHB tape and Sikaflex; ran the wires through the refrigerator vent. 3000+ miles so far this season with no problem.
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Check the tire pressures few days after the install and after a long ride. The installer pinched the rubber seal on the inner wheel valve and I developed a leak few days later, in the middle of nowhere. The tire shop showed me the seal.
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Thought I would just put an update on this..

Propane - Super easy... I just went to the Uhaul. Pulled along side their super tall tank and they did the hook up fillup, etc.

Solar - Still debating here. Thinking of just getting some extra solar panels for now. Maybe attempt the MPPT upgrade as well.

Valve Steams - Have all the materials... called back into the MB dealer waiting to hear from them. Called into another local RV place (Blue Moon RV in Carrolton). Figured this would be easier.
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Valve Steams - Have all the materials... called back into the MB dealer waiting to hear from them. Called into another local RV place (Blue Moon RV in Carrolton). Figured this would be easier.


A local tire shop installed ours - couldn’t have been easier!
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Check the tire pressures few days after the install and after a long ride. The installer pinched the rubber seal on the inner wheel valve and I developed a leak few days later, in the middle of nowhere. The tire shop showed me the seal.
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A local tire shop installed ours - couldn’t have been easier!
TXNTRAVLR - Same here. Local truck tire shop that services commercial vans, fleet trucks, and MH. They even carried all the BORG Equipment valve stems/kits and have done them many times. But even at that, they still messed up the grommets/seals. As BOOM23 said, mine developed leaks too. Once within hrs. of install, once 5 days later. Both on inner wheels. So it took 3 trips for entire process to get sorted. So far, 6 months 6,000 miles later, all ok now and hope it stays that way. Thankfully, the reason for replacing the stems to begin with, TST TPMS alarmed out on the fast leak
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I regret not taking my friend up on his offer when he closed three Midas... I had the chance to get a tire changing/balancing setup (the machine to remove and install tires and a tire balancing machine) for free... but I did not have space for those in my garage... that machine would have come handy this past weekend...

It is very easy to not get the grommet correctly seated... well, let me rephrase that, it is easy to install the grommet correctly. But when you insert the valve stem it tends to push part of the grommet out creating the leak. That is where I used the second loctite... both as a capilar sealer and as lubricant while inserting the stem. Then used blue threadlocker (since I ran out of Loctite brand ) on the threads where the nut and washer go in from the inside.



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It is very easy to not get the grommet correctly seated... well, let me rephrase that, it is easy to install the grommet correctly. But when you insert the valve stem it tends to push part of the grommet out creating the leak. That is where I used the second loctite... both as a capilar sealer and as lubricant while inserting the stem. Then used blue threadlocker (since I ran out of Loctite brand ) on the threads where the nut and washer go in from the inside.
WACHUKO - I would never be able to do it myself, as you did. Good job on DIY! Yes, the biggest problems installers make in installing the DL1SPAL is with the grommet install. Half of them never take off the grommets from the valve stem and try to install it as one assembly, shreds the grommets. The other half remove the grommets (as required) install them first, but then push the valve stem without the loctite as lubricant causing the grommet to not seat properly. That's what happened with my installers, and they are the pros. The other issue is they torque the inners identical to outers. But outers/Alu need 100-in.lbs. , while inners/steel only need 40-in.lbs. max. So they end up CRUSHING the inner grommets which is why 90% of the leaks develop in inner.

My strategy is when it is time for new tires, I will remove all 4 wheelsets, take to truck tire shop to remove old tires, rebuild the grommets myself in each wheel (as recommended by BORG everytime tire is replaced or every 5yrs), properly torque nuts to 40-in.lbs (inner) & 100-in.lbs. (outer), then bring rebuilt wheels back to shop for new tires.

TOBBUN - Sorry to be bearer of negative FYI, but better be pre-informed going into your valve stem install. Ask 3X - ask if they have done the BORG valve stems before, ask if they use Loctite on them & then ask if they know the torque settings. Any NO, go find someone else. But once done properly, it works great with TPMS.
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