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Titus · 10-11-2021, 03:39 PM

I was able to get in for the WSS recall late last month much faster than I could get in for the AEM recall a couple of months earlier.

MountainLife · 10-12-2021, 06:31 AM

Our AI started to throw a code regarding WSS. We have a code reader and we’re able to confirm that. If you don’t have a code reader and assume that the “check engine” light is the WSS it could be something else. I believe the WSS can cause problems with ABS and ESP. We had the ESP go out in high winds and when that happens you have no cruise control and you can feel the lack of stability. We had the recall done before our recent 1000+ mile trip and all was well. I hope the new WSS is robust enough, but if not MB will have to replace it.

TayaraTravel · 10-12-2021, 07:22 AM

I have had no issues arise, and never got the letter. But the recall service was performed at the dealer's initiative during a recent Service A. I wondered what it was all about.

Alex AVI · 10-12-2021, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocinante

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and puts known better sensors on the rear wheels,

With all due respect - I am totally aware these are new designs for the WSS. But no one or even can MB claim these are "known better sensors". The current NCV3 dually community involved in this recall of almost 49,000 units had been the ones who discovered the defective WSS sensors to begin with. So MB offers up the new WSS design as more robust per the docs. But there is no parallel universe of 49,000 NCV3 duallies built as campers or rv's that MB has tested with the new WSS design before it gets installed in the current units out being used in the real world.

My point is we (the current 49,000 NCV3 Dually rv owners) are the ones testing the new WSS design for MB. And until this new design has been out there and had logged millions of miles & hours under adverse winter conditions that the original version had gone through before their failures, there is no empirical data to support the claim that the new design is a "known better sensor" or a more robust one at that . That is premature and yet to be determined.

Having said all that - of course I believe in getting this recall scheduled and done with at my & my dealer's earliest possible time slot (assuming parts availability which at last check, my local dealer had none).

**Rocinante** · 10-12-2021, 03:12 PM

Everyone on the planet knows the phrase, "With all due respect" means with zero respect. Meanwhile, I wasn't addressing you in my post, so there was no need for you to jump in that way.

MB and the MB dealer said the new sensors were better and MB spent perfectly good money installing them on my van - money they could have spent in other interesting ways, I'm sure - so I chose to believe them.

Further, in the end, you agreed that getting the recall work done was the right thing to do, so again, I'll ask - why bother jumping into this thread in the first place?

Alex AVI · 10-12-2021, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocinante

Everyone on the planet knows the phrase, "With all due respect" means with zero respect.

Further, in the end, you agreed that getting the recall work done was the right thing to do, so again, I'll ask - why bother jumping into this thread in the first place?

"With all due respect means" I respectfully do not agree with you on the one specific point you made, which is these new sensors are "known better sensors". If you want to interpret that as zero respect, then that's on you, not on me. Again you make a statement you can not backup. That statement that these new sensors are "known better sensors" is false. Anecdotal conversation with your dealer is not data. Of course they will say these are better. I would too. What do you expect MB to say? You expect them to say we won't know until after winter if these would hold up? If you can post any data from anywhere to prove your claim, please do so and I will post a lengthy retraction of my post.

Yes, I do agree that getting the recall work done was the right thing to do. My agreement with the recall and the process has nothing to do with my disagreement with your claims. My agreement still does not make your claim true that these new sensors are "known better sensors". Post your data to backup your claim.

I jumped into this thread because it is a public thread in this forum open to anyone to opine. Are you restricting me from opining on this thread? Whether your post was addressed to me is irrelevant. Whether you agree with my opinion or not does not disqualify me from posting a differing opinion. If my jumping into this thread is against forum rules of decorum, then I am sure they will reprimand me very soon, delete my posts, probably ban me, and delete my account. But until that happens, I am within my forum rights to contradict any opinions that I feel are false or misleading. I do not abide by your rules of engagement. I abide by the forum rules and only they can tell me if my disagreeing with you is against the rules or not.

**Rocinante** · 10-12-2021, 05:44 PM

Nah, I just found that particular irrational post intensely irritating. You do you, carry on, carry on.

toskeysam · 10-12-2021, 05:50 PM

Well……driving my van off to storage until the recall appointment….the WSS failure cleared up. The CEL is still on since the problem is recorded. I doubt the problem will remain dormant, but it was nice to see it clear.

wachuko · 10-15-2021, 08:33 AM

I called today... the rear sensors are backordered... I will not be able to schedule the service until they have them...

I also got an error message on a front sensor... not covered by the recall...and my sprinter is now outside of warranty period.

Oh well, 60.00 each sensor and I can change it myself.

Titus · 10-15-2021, 01:11 PM

Wachuko
The front sensor is far easier to change. Be sure to order the MB part. I tried a 'generic' then a Bosch. Neither worked, even though the Bosch looked identical to MB. While the front WSS does not have a revised replacement part available, I think its covered by the extended warranty. MB reimbursed me for two rear and one front WSS sensors that I had replaced privately after the original warranty had expired.

wachuko · 10-15-2021, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Titus

Wachuko
The front sensor is far easier to change. Be sure to order the MB part. I tried a 'generic' then a Bosch. Neither worked, even though the Bosch looked identical to MB. While the front WSS does not have a revised replacement part available, I think its covered by the extended warranty. MB reimbursed me for two rear and one front WSS sensors that I had replaced privately after the original warranty had expired.

Thanks!!

I was going to order two of the ATE branded sensor... ATE is OEM for Mercedes... Two because my understanding is that both have to be the same...

At least that has been my experience with BMW. Can't have one factory and one OEM... either both are factory or both are OEM.

But what do you know... clear the errors this morning and the darn error message has not come back.... Stupid sensor was on all the way to Texas and back...

I am replacing them anyway... like you said, the front ones are easy... the rear ones, well... glad those are on the recall... One was already replaced a few years back during a trip to Georgia...

I was not aware the front were covered by the extended warranty. I had made an appointment with the dealer and was told only the rear ones are covered... but that might be just for the recall...

Let me find the document and have that handy if I decide to still take it in for the front... only if it is covered under warranty...

Titus · 10-16-2021, 07:54 PM

Interested to hear if replacing both fronts with ATE works. Of course, if ATE makes them for MB then they are the same and (maybe?) you could just replace the failed front one. Might be worth replacing just the failed one with ATE and see if they then work.

Also, I don't understand why just two have to be ATE, instead of four, if I am understanding your explanation correctly.