View Poll Results: What do you think of the Airstream Model X?
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I expected something different from Airstream
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I don't know what to think
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06-08-2021, 09:11 AM
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#1
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2 Rivet Member
2021 Interstate 24GL
Naperville
, Illinois
Join Date: Nov 2020
Posts: 23
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New "rugged" Interstate Model X Spotted
Here are some photos of the new Interstate Model X spotted at the Airstream dealer in Naperville, Illinois on 6/7/2021.
What do you think?
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06-08-2021, 10:31 AM
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#2
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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06-08-2021, 10:33 AM
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#3
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2 Rivet Member
2021 Interstate 24GL
Naperville
, Illinois
Join Date: Nov 2020
Posts: 23
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I have not been able to find anything on this van and the store wasn’t open when I was there. Not sure if it is a concept vehicle or in the production cycle. No pricing listed anywhere on it.
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06-08-2021, 12:37 PM
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#4
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Rivet Master
2007 Interstate
League City
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 6,139
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OK, this thread just got my danged attention to a degree that very few things do.
Number one, this appears to be a genuine leak of an Interstate model under production consideration, rather than someone's DIY fantasy of what they might want their personal Interstate to look like. It looks real.
Number two, I am so interested in this concept that I just applied to Airstream for a loaner - I offered for LB_3 and I to serve as short-term Ambassadors to test one out, to put it through it's paces under our demands of off-grid performance.
I'm not going to repeat my full pitch to Airstream in this post, but here's an excerpt, to give you an idea of where I'm coming from:
There is probably nobody else on earth who has pushed the Interstate to the limits that we already have, while working in our private DIY capacity. A natural outgrowth of that effort would be for us to test the capacity of an analogous enhanced Interstate that Airstream itself produces.
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06-08-2021, 12:47 PM
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#5
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,674
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Hi
So what's in the pictures?
There's definitely an odd hitch / gizmo on the back end.
Hard to be sure, but I'd bet there's a lift kit on it.
Departure angle seems to be helped out by the rise at the tail.
Some sort of roof rack, but no obvious (ladder) way to get up there.
Awning looks more like a manual deploy version.
Is that 22' long ???
Fixed running board on drivers side, maybe on passenger side as well.
and on and on ....
Bob
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06-08-2021, 01:22 PM
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Rivet Master
2024 Interstate 19
Fulton
, Maryland
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 3,867
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InterBlog
. . . Number two, I am so interested in this concept that I just applied to Airstream for a loaner - I offered for LB_3 and I to serve as short-term Ambassadors to test one out, to put it through it's paces under our demands of off-grid performance. . . [/I]
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Good luck - but where is your YouTube channel, Instagram and Facebook page?
Seems those are the entry tickets today to become a brand ambassador.
Agree this looks like a something Airstream would do - they might as well join all the other builders doing these "Overland" rigs that are so popular now.
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2024 Airstream Interstate 19e AWD
Previous: 2013 Airstream Interstate 3500 Ext Lounge
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06-08-2021, 02:09 PM
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#7
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,674
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Hi
One thing the overland folks seem to be in love with are cassette toilets. I don't see an obvious "exit door" for a cassette on this MH.
Bob
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06-08-2021, 02:20 PM
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#8
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Rivet Master
2024 Interstate 19
Fulton
, Maryland
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 3,867
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uncle_bob
Hi
One thing the overland folks seem to be in love with are cassette toilets. I don't see an obvious "exit door" for a cassette on this MH.
Bob
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It just has the standard macerator door on drivers side. It is Airstream's version of Overlanding. It's like all the owners of tricked out Jeeps and 4x4 pickups that never go off-road. It's just a style choice.
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2024 Airstream Interstate 19e AWD
Previous: 2013 Airstream Interstate 3500 Ext Lounge
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06-08-2021, 02:37 PM
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#9
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,674
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Hi
Rumor has it that there will be a press release at 10AM on the 10th. I'd bet at least a full bottle of beer that we'll see some YouTube video's released very soon after that.
Bob
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06-09-2021, 07:25 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 Interstate
League City
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 6,139
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxster1971
Good luck - but where is your YouTube channel, Instagram and Facebook page?....
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That works against us. We are real people with lives and professional careers, not seeking to waste our time developing as long-term influencers (although FWIW, I do have an IG page).
What potentially works FOR us is our influencer-defying authenticity - our technical presence, WBCCI presence, age, Interstate track record, and beguiling loaner project proposal (my extra-photogenic off-grid land in the Canadian wilderness and the extreme off-grid cross-continent trek required to get there).
Airstream has inexplicably focused on younger, hipper Ambassadors. Fine - but those are not the people buying most of their product, especially not the newer Interstates, which are only purchased by the exceptionally well-heeled, which are almost exclusively older successful retirees. Where are the weight-lifting, boundary-pushing middle-agers in Airstream's portfolio? At least Winnebago got that part right, in hiring the fiftysomething FitRV couple. Airstream is absent from that playing field.
I do not give a rat's posterior whether or not we get any response from Airstream on my inquiry. In this context, it was just too tempting to pass up on general principle. I filled out their contact form yesterday as I was eating lunch. No time wasted.
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06-09-2021, 08:39 AM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,674
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Hi
If you look at how the car companies do this ( Ford and the Bronco is a good example ), they have "company" vehicles long before they have "civilian" vehicles. Unless you are a company employe (somehow dealers get into that category) or accompanied by one ... you don't get to touch the steering wheel.
I'd bet these MH's fall into the same category.
Bob
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06-09-2021, 09:12 AM
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#12
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2 Rivet Member
2017 23' Flying Cloud
2021 Interstate 24GL
Searsmont
, Maine
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 26
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I would love to see a more rugged offering personally. I was always a fan of the Vanagons and Eurovans. Creature comforts, but without as many of the luxuries that could get damaged. I still believe the Airstream name adds resale value, and mystique, and that while they have their faults they still build nice campers when looking at the industry overall. The interstate looks sharp, makes road tripping very easy, but I stress out that one of my toddlers (Or Me!) will press the door close button while the screen is out, etc. A more rugged simplified interior as an option would appeal to some.
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06-09-2021, 10:01 AM
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#13
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,674
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sawmiller
I would love to see a more rugged offering personally. I was always a fan of the Vanagons and Eurovans. Creature comforts, but without as many of the luxuries that could get damaged. I still believe the Airstream name adds resale value, and mystique, and that while they have their faults they still build nice campers when looking at the industry overall. The interstate looks sharp, makes road tripping very easy, but I stress out that one of my toddlers (Or Me!) will press the door close button while the screen is out, etc. A more rugged simplified interior as an option would appeal to some.
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Hi
If the "X" is a connection with the Basecamp X models, I suspect the interior will get some of the same features. Which and what .... who knows. Bench seats in back vs the power sofa ???
Bob
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06-09-2021, 10:11 AM
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#14
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,674
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InterBlog
That works against us. We are real people with lives and professional careers, not seeking to waste our time developing as long-term influencers (although FWIW, I do have an IG page).
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Airstream has inexplicably focused on younger, hipper Ambassadors. Fine - but those are not the people buying most of their product, especially not the newer Interstates, which are only purchased by the exceptionally well-heeled, which are almost exclusively older successful retirees.
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Hi
If you hop on YouTube and start looking at other brands, there are "young folks" buying similar class B's at near the same sort of price. If I was putting money into the AS marketing budget, I'd say that's an un-tapped market for them. You don't market to the customers you already have, you go after the ones you don't have ....
They could use a bit more corporate focus (not just marketing ) on the "kid" market.
Bob
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06-09-2021, 01:32 PM
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Just an old timer...
2004 22' Interstate
Tipton
, Iowa
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,759
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What they need to focus on is a KISS model. Forget the fancy electronics, internal WIFI and expensive and complex systems. Dump the Interstate and build it on a 4WD Ford Transit gas chassis, and build it with as few moving parts and as little complexity as possible in the RV systems. Moving parts break. Make it a 1995-simple (but quality) interior and tried-and-true simple RV systems that can be diagonosed and repaired by the owner on the road without a trip to the shop, price it under $100k, and they wouldn't be able to build them fast enough to meet the demand.
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AIR 2053 Current: 2004 Airstream Interstate "B-Van" T1N DODGE Sprinter
Former Airstreams: 1953 Flying Cloud, 1957 Overlander, 1961 Bambi, 1970 Safari Special, 1978 Argosy Minuet, 1985 325 Moho, 1994 Limited 34' Two-door, 1994 B190 "B-Van"
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06-09-2021, 02:03 PM
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#16
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,674
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 85MH325
What they need to focus on is a KISS model. Forget the fancy electronics, internal WIFI and expensive and complex systems. Dump the Interstate and build it on a 4WD Ford Transit gas chassis, and build it with as few moving parts and as little complexity as possible in the RV systems. Moving parts break. Make it a 1995-simple (but quality) interior and tried-and-true simple RV systems that can be diagonosed and repaired by the owner on the road without a trip to the shop, price it under $100k, and they wouldn't be able to build them fast enough to meet the demand.
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Hi
So simply a box with beds and no appliances or A/C to clutter things up .... Put it on a Chinese truck chassis so there aren't any complicated parts involved, like automatic transmissions or power brakes. None of this USB outlet or "connectivity" stuff that nobody ever uses anyway.
Bob
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06-09-2021, 02:19 PM
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Remember, Safety Third
1973 27' Overlander
Catfish Corners
, Georgia
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 5,720
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I predict Airstream will build a million of them and make a small fortune. Seriously.
Jim
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06-09-2021, 02:22 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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06-09-2021, 07:04 PM
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Rivet Master
1988 32' Excella
Robbinsville
, New Jersey
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 3,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 85MH325
What they need to focus on is a KISS model. Forget the fancy electronics, internal WIFI and expensive and complex systems. Dump the Interstate and build it on a 4WD Ford Transit gas chassis, and build it with as few moving parts and as little complexity as possible in the RV systems. Moving parts break. Make it a 1995-simple (but quality) interior and tried-and-true simple RV systems that can be diagonosed and repaired by the owner on the road without a trip to the shop, price it under $100k, and they wouldn't be able to build them fast enough to meet the demand.
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They can't build enough to meet demand now.
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06-09-2021, 07:08 PM
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#20
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,674
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Hi
Seriously, there are multiple divisions within Thor. Various parts of the company make this. Other parts make that.Some of them do make Ford based MH's. Telling one chunk of the company to stop doing what they are doing and put the other chunk out of business instead ..... not how it's normally done.
Bob
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