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Old 10-16-2014, 07:01 PM   #1
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Making the TV play through the radio speakers

We recently became first time RV owners with our 2013 Interstate. The first night we hooked up the computer to the front TV to watch a movie on Netflix. I was disappointed to see that I could not play the TV through the radio speakers.

To fix that issue, I looked at the Kenwood radio installation manual to find that there were audio-in leads. I removed the trim panel around the radio and then removed the four torx screws that mount the radio.





Once the screws were removed, I pulled out the radio and then found the leads. There were two sets of RCA plugs, one for audio-in and one for audio-out.



I pulled down my box of audio cables and found one that had an earphone jack on one end with two RCA outlets on the other end. To see if this would work, I plugged the cable into the headphone jack on the TV and then hooked it up to the audio-in cables on the radio. On the radio, the name applied to the audio-in on the main menu was for "Game". Popped a DVD into the TV, selected "Game" and I was rewarded with sound on all of the speakers.









Having installed many car stereos during my life, I now looked for the best way to run the cables. I pulled the windshield pillar trim loose only to find that part of the air bag was behind it. Not wanting to do anything in this area, I looked for another way to route the wires but could not come up with a workable solution that did not involve partially disassembling the motorhome. So I routed the cables from the back of the radio to the glove box, re-installed the radio and called it good for the day. While it was not the most elegant solution, I could simply pull the cables out of the glove box and hook it up to the TV.





That evening it came to me that since I had a Bluetooth radio, I needed a Bluetooth transmitter that I could plug into the headphone jack on the TV to send the signal to the radio. After doing some research, I settled on a device made by Clear Sounds. It has a rechargeable battery and a charger I plugged into the 110 outlet in the front storage compartment.





I followed the instructions that came with the unit to pair it with the radio by going to the phone pairing screen on the radio. Once the unit was paired, I selected "Audio A2AP" on the menu, turned it on and plugged it into the TV, chose "Bluetooth" on the radio menu and, voila, I had sound to the front speakers of the radio. Once you select "Bluetooth", "Clear TV" appears at the top of the screen. It took me a bit to figure out why I only had front speaker sound. On the same phone page where I paired the radio, at the bottom there you could choose "front" or "all" speakers. Once I chose "all" I now had sound on all of the radio speakers. And I did not have to run a single wire! If I had only thought of this before I pulled the radio out, I would have saved a bunch of time.











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Old 10-16-2014, 09:03 PM   #2
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Nice work, thanks for sharing. I just may have to do this myself.


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Old 10-17-2014, 01:32 AM   #3
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Yes, a very "¢ool" modification.
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Old 10-17-2014, 06:15 AM   #4
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No bluetooth?
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Old 10-17-2014, 06:40 AM   #5
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Thanks for sharing this information!

I did not realize that a Bluetooth transmitter was available. I've been searching for a way to get output from my Sirius satellite radio into my AS' Bluetooth enabled Sony radio (I have a AS TT.) Just placed my order with Amazon for everything I will need to complete the job!

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Old 10-17-2014, 08:08 AM   #6
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Jerhofer - thanks for sharing this great solution. I struggled to use the cables provided to listen to books or music from my iPad or iPhone and then realized how easy it was to do it via Bluetooth.

I recently read an SAE article that says the auto industry is going to start using a super Bluetooth system to make most functions in the vehicle wireless and eliminate the wires to save weight.


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Old 10-17-2014, 11:07 AM   #7
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No bluetooth?
If you do not have Bluetooth and your radio has audio inputs, your would need to run the cables to the back of the radio as I originally did. Considering that you are not likely to be using the TV while you are driving, hooking up the cables that I stored in the glove box would work. No one would probably be sitting in the passenger seat so the cables would not be in the way. If I was going to use the cables I have in the glove box, I would probably run them up and behind the sun visors and then back to the TV. That would pretty much keep them out of the way.
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Old 10-19-2014, 09:03 PM   #8
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Wow!

Thank you so much for sharing your experience and for posting all the photos.

You've saved us a lot of time and frustration!!

When you're around Jackson Hole, WY / Yellowstone pls allow me to buy you a case of something local.

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Old 10-20-2014, 05:19 AM   #9
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Thanks, this is a great tip. Especially well documented with the photos. Two questions:

A. Which model of Clearsounds are you using?
Amazon lists a CLS-CS-QLINK that seems to be especially designed for their headset, and doesn't look quite like the one in your photo. It's about $40.

Then there's another, which looks more like the one you purchased, the CSQLINK, for about $20 more.

Will both models work for this purpose?

B. Which audio outlet did you plug this into?
TV or Computer? Did it make a difference (delay)

Thanks again!

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Thanks, this is a great tip. Especially well documented with the photos. Two questions:

A. Which model of Clearsounds are you using?
Amazon lists a CLS-CS-QLINK that seems to be especially designed for their headset, and doesn't look quite like the one in your photo. It's about $40.

Then there's another, which looks more like the one you purchased, the CSQLINK, for about $20 more.

Will both models work for this purpose?

B. Which audio outlet did you plug this into?
TV or Computer? Did it make a difference (delay)

Thanks again!

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The model is CLS-CS-QLINK. We are traveling in the AI and I used it the past two nights and plugged it into the TV both times. The first night we watched a DVD and I did not notice any lag. Last night we used my Ipad to access Amazon Prime and I did notice a small amount of lag. I like your idea of plugging it directly into the computer and will try that the next time we use it.
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I have a 2014.5 Interstate with Blu-Ray and the Kenwood DNN990HD.

It's annoying that Airstream didn't run wires from the Kenwood unit in the dashboard back to the video system in the cabin. There are two different, unconnected audio-video systems in the Interstate: You can play a DVD in the Kenwood, display it on the Little screen up in front, and listen to it through the Kenwood roof speakers. -OR- You can play a DVD in the Blu-Ray, watch it on the TVs and listen to it on the TV's weak little speakers.

But you cannot play a Blu-Ray, watch it on the TVs, and listen to it on the fancy Kenwood sound system.

It's infuriating that Airstream couldn't manage to run a $5 cable from the dashboard back to the Blu-Ray in the cabin. Just really disappointing.

Yes, I've purchased the tiny Bluetooth transmitter. I'd still rather have cables running up through the side pillars or under the floor and back up. It would have been cheap and easy to do during the Airstream build, practically free, and such a hassle to add now.

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Old 11-07-2014, 04:10 PM   #12
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BTW, the Bluetooth transmitter will work with the rear TV as well. It is within range.
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The audio video input in the over head compartment

Attachment 230638Thank you all for great posts. I am a new owner of a 2014.5 interstate ext and love it. However, my wife is not too happy with me spending countless hours in there trying to figure it all out
This forum has already saved me a few trips to the dealer.
Does anyone know what the audio video input jacks are in the overhead compartment above the driver side? I guess I was hoping that it would be wired to the back of the DNN990HD...
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They might be inputs to the front TV but that's just a guess.
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On my 2013 Interstate that AV connector is just tied to the front TV. It's a video input option for a device that does not have HDMI connector.
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Thank you for the reply. I will check that. I also have a switch as reported by protagonist in the passenger side of my front TV for speaker to TV being off or on. Does this switch really direct the sound from TV to the Van's speakers(through the DNN990HD)? Haven't figured that out yet. If that is the case then why to wire separately to the Kenwood unit? Anyone else has this switch and knows what it Does?
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That switch turns the TV speakers off and lets you listen thru the earphones.
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Thank you for the reply. I will check that. I also have a switch as reported by protagonist in the passenger side of my front TV for speaker to TV being off or on. Does this switch really direct the sound from TV to the Van's speakers(through the DNN990HD)? Haven't figured that out yet. If that is the case then why to wire separately to the Kenwood unit? Anyone else has this switch and knows what it Does?
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The 2nd row seats have sockets for listening to the TV through headphones. Hence the requirement to switch off the TV speakers so the front row can listen to the radio!
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Fantastic. Thank you.
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Update

If you go back to the my first post you will see that I wanted to hardwire the TV to make it work with the radio speakers. After taking loose the windshield post trim and seeing an airbag in the way, I switched over to using a Bluetooth transmitter. I had coiled up the wiring from the radio in the glove box and had an extension cable that I could use to hook up the wiring. Unfortunately, this meant cables dangling in the cab area.

After using the Bluetooth now for a few months, I noticed that the sound was better when I used the direct wiring. Also, there was occasionally a lag in the audio reflected in seeing lip movement not synchronized to the actual sound. So I was not completely satisfied.

While sitting in the motorhome on a rainy day in Florida, it came to me that I should try to run the wires under the floor and up the pillar between the passenger door and the sliding door. I wasn't sure if that would work but I had some time today to give it a try.

First I removed the cover over the jack and tools. I zip tied the cable from the radio to an existing cable. I then removed the trim panel at the top of the step so I could pull back the rubberized floormat. I ran the cable through the tool area to the base of the seat.







In the front overhead cabinet on the right side is a hole through which the HDMI cable from the rear TV enters this area. I fed one end of my second cable through this hole. This takes a little finessing as the RCA ends are large enough that you can only slip one end at a time through the hole.



There is enough room to get a finger or two up into this area from just above the door opening. You will have to feel around for the ends but I soon had as much cable as I wanted pulled through. I left about a foot of cable in the storage area as I needed to be able to hook up the cable that will run from the headphone jack on the side of the TV. You will need RCA female to female couplers to attach these cables.





Next I removed the top screw on the vertical door jamb trim so I could pull the trim out a bit. I also removed the tie down at the floor area. I ran the cable along the side of the overhead cabinet towards the door trim and fed it down to the trim. I then pulled the trim out at the top and fed the cable behind the trim over to the rubber door seal. From here it was a matter of pulling back on the rubber seal and inserting the cable into the gap between the trim and the metal.











Eventually I had the cable at the floor level. Here I removed the aluminum strip that runs just behind the seats. I also removed some of the screws on the black plastic trim in the step area so I could pull it up. And I pulled up the rubber floor mat under the passenger seat. I fed the cable from the rubber seal to the rear of the seat base.





Now I had the cable on both sides of the seat base. Initially I was planning on running the cable along the plastic trim in the step area for the passenger seat but that trim was difficult to remove and there was very little clearance between the trim and the steel below. Then I noticed that there was an existing hole at the rear of the seat base. The hole was too small but that could be easily remedied. But how to get access to the inside of the seat base. When I pulled up the skirt on the side of the passenger seat, I cold see that the panel that held the awning switch could be removed. Now I had a relatively large hole that allowed me to work under the seat base.



To enlarge the rear hole I used a step bit and soon had that hole big enough to get the cable ends through. I made it somewhat larger that it needed to be for the cable so I could install a rubber grommet.







The low part of the front of the seat base is double walled. I had to drill a hole from the outside through both panels, which are about a 1/2" apart. Once I had the hole started, I used the step bit again to enlarge the hole for the cable and grommets. Now I had both cables under the seat where it was simply a matter of hooking them up.





From here it was time to put everything back together. No more wires dangling!!!! On the radio I now select the "Game" option and I am ready to hear the TV over the radio speakers. We are leaving for California for a month long trip next week. When I get back I may tackle upgrading the speakers.



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