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06-11-2021, 08:34 AM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 16,394
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Interstate X Roof Rack
Hi
Ok, I get that the rack is mostly there for looks. No need to get further into that. They *do* indeed toss some things in for "bling".
Here's the question:
Santa drops off an X in your driveway. You now have an urgent need to *use* that roof rack. What would you use it for? How would you go about doing that?
I see one very obvious issue. It's 10' off the ground with no ladder to get to it. Even if you are 6' tall, it's going to take a ladder of some sort to get there.
Next up: You have a bunch of solar panels up there. Is what you are covering them with more important than the solar output?
One thing that might be nice would be a 270 degree awning. You see them on a lot of "overland" rigs. As long as you and your helpers are all at least 9' tall it should be pretty easy to work with. Otherwise, you would need to bring along a couple step ladders.
I've tossed kayaks up on the roof of SUV's using various approaches. Using any of them for a 10' high roof .... yikes ....
So far I haven't seen any ratings on the rack. It is not uncommon to see a static rating (like for people in a tent) and a dynamic rating ( like for moving down the road), Until we see those numbers (if and when .... maybe Santa will drop them off ...) there's really no way to fully evaluate things like a platform tent.
Fun !!!
Bob
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06-11-2021, 08:58 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2021 16' Caravel
New Orleans
, Louisiana
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uncle_bob
Hi
Ok, I get that the rack is mostly there for looks.
Bob
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Just for looks; but also good support for 4 x 100W solar panels. Getting up there at our age would be suicidal
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06-11-2021, 09:25 AM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 16,394
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverBamby
Just for looks; but also good support for 4 x 100W solar panels. Getting up there at our age would be suicidal
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Hi
Ok, so there's another side to this. Even if you *could* do something with the racks, would you feel safe doing so?. I hadn't though of putting that on the list.
I'm thinking it might work as a place to park your pet Bald Eagle ....
Bob
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06-11-2021, 09:45 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 22' Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 18,308
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Mine has a roof rack, of sorts, and I have always thought it was mostly to protect the AC unit up there.
Maggie
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06-11-2021, 10:59 AM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 16,394
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lily&Me
Mine has a roof rack, of sorts, and I have always thought it was mostly to protect the AC unit up there.
Maggie
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Hi
It might also protect the solar panels a bit. I'm betting the Max Air fan can defend it's self pretty well
My fear is that a tree branch might be as likely to rip the cross bar off as anything else. Damage / stuff hanging from the roof is a problem no matter what sort it is.
Not having wings ( and not thinking of going up to the second floor of the showroom !!!) I really don't know how much clearance there is between the rack and the stuff on top. I *assume* it's above it all. I have absolutely no evidence to back that up ..... I *think* it's above everything but I don't *know* that.
Bob
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06-11-2021, 11:42 AM
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Rivet Master
2020 25' Globetrotter
Santa Rosa
, California
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,937
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In addition to being cosmetic and adding to the rugged adventure ambiance Airstream is going for, it appears the rooftop "rack" (which isn't really a practical rack IMO) provides a mounting point for the awning and the various exterior lighting systems.
The "regular" Interstates obviously also have a mounting point on the roof for the awning but it is sheathed in cosmetic cladding. On the X, the mounting is out in the open, just like the trailer hitch, and for consistency they carried the theme around the entire roofline and used it to mount other things as well.
I think the X is pretty cool but at this point in life our Globetrotter is much more practical.
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2020 25' Globetrotter Twin | 2024 GMC Sierra 2500HD Denali Ult. 4x4 Duramax
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06-11-2021, 11:46 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 22' Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
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Our roof rack is completely separate from the awning.
I also have no solar panels, thus the deduction that the structure is there to protect the AC.
Or, maybe it’s just for aesthetics.
Maggie
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06-11-2021, 12:09 PM
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Rivet Master
2020 25' Globetrotter
Santa Rosa
, California
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,937
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lily&Me
Our roof rack is completely separate from the awning.
I also have no solar panels, thus the deduction that the structure is there to protect the AC.
Or, maybe it’s just for aesthetics.
Maggie
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Understood with respect to your 2007. But, on the new Interstates the awning is mounted higher up on the roof than on your rig. From the photos it looks like the X "roof rack" on the awning side is at the same height as the awning mounting point for the 24GL and GT so they obviously used it to mount the awning. Also, like a rooftop light bar on a 4x4, it facilitates mounting the various auxiliary lighting systems.
It may provide some AC protection and no doubt you're correct; it also contributes to the "rugged" aesthetic. But it does seem to serve other functions too, even if being a useable roof rack isn't one of them!
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2020 25' Globetrotter Twin | 2024 GMC Sierra 2500HD Denali Ult. 4x4 Duramax
400Ah Battle Born lithium battery string | 580W solar (400W roof 180W portable)
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06-11-2021, 12:12 PM
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#9
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 16,394
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Hi
I wound not in any way argue that it is *not* there for looks.
I keep trying to work out practical uses for it. Just what those are is still a bit unclear. There's already enough lights mounted up there to illuminate a small city. No need for more as far as I'm concerned.
I'd like to say that you could put the "viewing lounge" up there. Park at the races and go up there to sit and sip margaritas while you watch the race. I can think of a long list of reasons I would not go that way ... You *do* see folks who have done that and made it work.
If somebody could make a 270 degree awning work from the ground, I'd go for that in a heartbeat. It would have to be pretty darn easy to manipulate, but I'd go for it if it was.
So: Would I go for a driver side power awning that worked same / same as the existing awning? ..... hmmm .... probably not cheap .... Twice as many power awnings to spontaneously deploy at 80 MHP
Bob
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06-11-2021, 12:27 PM
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Rivet Master
2020 25' Globetrotter
Santa Rosa
, California
Join Date: Feb 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uncle_bob
Hi
I wound not in any way argue that it is *not* there for looks.
I keep trying to work out practical uses for it. Just what those are is still a bit unclear. There's already enough lights mounted up there to illuminate a small city. No need for more as far as I'm concerned.
Bob
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Just to be clear, I'm not suggesting that the rack is there to mount more lights, but rather that it's there, in part, to mount the lights that Airstream installed from the factory.
Could they have found a different way to do that? Sure. But the blacked out rack fits with the vibe of the black cladding, black steel wheels, exposed trailer hitch, open interior storage bins, basic velcro fastened window shades, etc.
So the rack isn't completely without purpose (lights and awning mounting point) and even if it's also an element for looks, IMO there's nothing wrong with that.
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2020 25' Globetrotter Twin | 2024 GMC Sierra 2500HD Denali Ult. 4x4 Duramax
400Ah Battle Born lithium battery string | 580W solar (400W roof 180W portable)
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06-11-2021, 12:29 PM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 16,394
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeinca
Just to be clear, I'm not suggesting that the rack is there to mount more lights, but rather that it's there, in part, to mount the lights that Airstream installed from the factory.
Could they have found a different way to do that? Sure. But the blacked out rack fits with the vibe of the black cladding, black steel wheels, exposed trailer hitch, open interior storage bins, basic velcro fastened window shades, etc.
So the rack isn't completely without purpose (lights and awning mounting point) and even if it's also an element for looks, IMO there's nothing wrong with that.
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Hi
I'm not saying the rack "as is" has no purpose, far from it. I did not mean to imply that it's there only for looks. The question is - what do you add to it?
Bob
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06-11-2021, 12:41 PM
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Rivet Master
2020 25' Globetrotter
Santa Rosa
, California
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,937
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uncle_bob
Hi
I'm not saying the rack "as is" has no purpose, far from it. I did not mean to imply that it's there only for looks. The question is - what do you add to it?
Bob
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I get it. That's a very good question. I suggest that we take up a collection, buy me an X, and I'll see what I can figure out!
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2020 25' Globetrotter Twin | 2024 GMC Sierra 2500HD Denali Ult. 4x4 Duramax
400Ah Battle Born lithium battery string | 580W solar (400W roof 180W portable)
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06-11-2021, 12:43 PM
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#13
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 16,394
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeinca
I get it. That's a very good question. I suggest that we take up a collection, buy me an X, and I'll see what I can figure out!
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Hi
Sorry, I can only afford one ....
Bob
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06-12-2021, 09:53 AM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 16,394
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Hi
After watching the various videos a few zillion times ...
There are no "flood lights" on the driver's side. I've certainly been in places that were a bit "interesting" to back into. Having light on both sides of the RV while doing this would be a plus.
So maybe there *is* a reason to add more lights
It also has been pointed out that they might come in handy for the mandatory "bison check" one does before walking the dogs in the evening. After the first herd of Bison beds down for the night around your RV .... you get a bit paranoid .....
Bob
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06-12-2021, 11:59 AM
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Rivet Master
2020 23' Flying Cloud
2019 22' Sport
Sebastian
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 1,272
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The problem is that you forgot to tick the box for the fold-up climbing wall option. It stores in the rack, and you just flip it down over the driver’s side when you need to work on your cragging and crimping.
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06-12-2021, 12:07 PM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 16,394
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GetawA-S
The problem is that you forgot to tick the box for the fold-up climbing wall option. It stores in the rack, and you just flip it down over the driver’s side when you need to work on your cragging and crimping.
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Hi
Maybe a cargo net that you could scramble up ....
I'm still not sure there's any room on the roof once you get there. Looking at the pictures, they have it pretty well packed with "stuff". Hanging on a ladder / cargo net / climbing wall with one hand and tossing the 20' long kayak up with the other *really* sounds like fun .... not ....
Bob
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06-12-2021, 01:08 PM
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Rivet Master
1988 32' Excella
Robbinsville
, New Jersey
Join Date: May 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uncle_bob
So: Would I go for a driver side power awning that worked same / same as the existing awning? ..... hmmm .... probably not cheap .... Twice as many power awnings to spontaneously deploy at 80 MHP
Bob
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Well with the power awnings spontaneously deployed at 80 MHP you would get your wings.
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06-12-2021, 05:05 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Then you just need to go to full military power and select all 4 stages of afterburner to climb out…
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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06-12-2021, 05:37 PM
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#19
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 16,394
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rmkrum
Then you just need to go to full military power and select all 4 stages of afterburner to climb out…
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Hi
I'm *sure* afterburners are on the build sheet somewhere here .....
Bob
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06-12-2021, 10:05 PM
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Contributing Member
2018 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Austin (Hays County)
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rmkrum
Then you just need to go to full military power and select all 4 stages of afterburner to climb out…
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Shucks! My afterburner was either full on or off. Of course, that was nearly 70years ago. F-86D Sabre Dog. It did yield 2 miles a minute climb and that was great then
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