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Old 12-22-2015, 08:20 AM   #21
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A sparkle bucket-ish porta potty with double plastic bags and kitty litter works, without using the toilet. Just stow it carefully with good lid so it can't tip over!

I can't help but giggle when I visualize that particular apparatus in a vehicle that sells for a buck and a half. Talk about both extremes of consumer experience.


Reminds me of our first backcountry visit to Big Bend Ranch State Park. The park manager handed us a free BORG bano - a Home Depot orange five gallon bucket with a strip of foam pipe insulation fitted around the rim because that's what they expected campers to use, at least while at the designated launch points / parking spots. And I said no thank you, really, I have a 5-gallon portable marine toilet in the back of my car. And those little potties work very well - except they are also water-based and have the freezing weather limitation.
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Old 12-22-2015, 06:33 PM   #22
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My wife is trying to talk me into driving our Airtream out to our place in Breckenridge for New Year's Eve.
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Wondering if you are still thinking of making the trip. Terrible weather out that way right now.
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Old 12-22-2015, 07:24 PM   #23
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OTRA we are watching the weather will decide later this week. I have enjoyed the wide range of opinions and suggestions.
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Old 12-22-2015, 07:57 PM   #24
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What's the problem? Just do it , if in very bad weather just park and read a book ,enjoy and have fun...
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Old 12-25-2015, 11:02 AM   #25
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Merry X-Mas (Festivus, etc) to all.

We might be going to Phoenix for a few days (leaving Saturday or Sunday). I noticed it's in the 30's at night. If we don't use the RV systems (toilets, sinks), and we are not winterized, is that ok? I assume if anything freezes at night, it will thaw during the day. But, want to be sure we don't damage anything.
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Old 12-25-2015, 11:53 AM   #26
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We might be going to Phoenix for a few days (leaving Saturday or Sunday). I noticed it's in the 30's at night. If we don't use the RV systems (toilets, sinks), and we are not winterized, is that ok? I assume if anything freezes at night, it will thaw during the day. But, want to be sure we don't damage anything.
It's not just the temperature, it's the duration. Water doesn't freeze instantly, so if the below-freezing temperatures are only for two or three hours, you're probably okay, whether you use on-board systems or not.

If you have access to an electrical hookup and can use the tank heaters plus the water heater, the only things that will be at risk of freezing are the macerator pump and the external fittings (municipal water inlet and external shower connection. Not much you can do about the macerator pumpó but if you ran it dry last time you used it, and don't use it when the temperatures are below freezing, it shouldn't retain enough water to hurt it. Mine has survived winter camping that way when the temperature dropped below freezing.

As for the external fittings, the best protection I can think of without winterizing is a couple of Styrofoam hose bibb coversÖ
http://www.amazon.com/Frost-King-FC1.../dp/B001FG3C1C
I use these when I go winter camping and I'm expecting the temperature to drop below freezing overnight. If you can't think of any other way to attach them over the shower connection and municipal water intake, you can always use duck tape; just make sure you also carry some Goo Gone to remove the adhesive residue afterward.
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Thanks Protagonist l have run the macerator pump dry and I have disconnected the external shower water supply from the inside after draining it dry. I will have power each night we stop on the way and when we are in Breckenridge. We will not be using the water system at all and it will stay winterized. Thanks again for your advice. Merry Christmas.
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Yes, thanks Protag. Merry x-mas too!
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