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06-26-2009, 08:07 AM
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Islander
2005 28' International CCD
Deer Harbor
, ORCAS ISLAND WA
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 981
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pets traveling in coach
just for enlightenment: would it be prudent to put 35 lb dog in its crate and then put it in the coach while traveling???
what are pros and cons???
thanks
seashores
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06-26-2009, 08:27 AM
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Rivet Master 

2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,278
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I've heard vomit stories about pets in this situation. That's only hearsay and couldn't be admitted in court.
In our state it's not illegal to tow with a person inside a trailer (got this directly from a state trooper, although they strongly advise against it). [on edit: I seem to recall he said humans in the trailer is not legal in most other states. Another constitutional right barred to keep us from competing for a Darwin award...] Think about trying this with a human inside the coach for an hour or so. I'll bet you'd get some interesting stories about the ride, noise, etc. You could be freaking the bejeebers out of a loved pet.
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06-26-2009, 08:41 AM
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Rivet Master 
1973 27' Overlander
Tucson
, AZ
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,485
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Con: It might be a tad warm inside for that. Just a bit.
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06-26-2009, 08:50 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
1972 23' Safari
Placitas
, New Mexico
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 305
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there will be puking
I have taken a few very brief trips in my 72 Safari, once across a parking lot and once to the other side of a campground. Top speed, maybe 20 mph. I was stunned at how rough the ride is, the sounds it makes, the sway. It seems a miracle that the inside stays intact. That said, absolutely no. I would not put a crated pet in the trailer. Besides the terror factor, when a dog pukes in a crate, it is an unbelievable mess. And there will be puking
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06-26-2009, 09:28 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
1979 Argosy 27
1969 21' Globetrotter
1953 25' Cruiser
Front Royal
, Virginia
Join Date: Jan 2009
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Yeh, the rig moves way too much and serious injury could happen to your pet from siding around in the crate. The temp can rise in the rig just as high as in a parked car, especially if stuck in traffic.
But I am a serious per lover and I would not hesitate smashing car windows on a warm day to release the animal in distress and turn over to animal control.
When it's 72 degrees, a car in direct sun can reach an internal temperature of 116. Even in the shade, a car can be 10 to 20 degrees hotter than outdoors, and cracking the window has almost no effect. Hot car can be deadly for dogs
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06-26-2009, 09:59 AM
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Rivet Master 

2006 22' Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 18,356
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Aside from the heat issue, I think an animal would be frightened and anxious by the movement of the coach.
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06-26-2009, 01:37 PM
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Rivet Master 
2005 22' Safari
Gresham
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 621
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Would you have your kids travel that way? That's your answer.
Susan
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06-26-2009, 02:23 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"

2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,357
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 .....NO
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06-26-2009, 02:24 PM
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Rivet Master 
2010 27' FB Classic
N/A
, Texas
Join Date: Apr 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kingfisher24
just for enlightenment: would it be prudent to put 35 lb dog in its crate and then put it in the coach while traveling???
what are pros and cons???
thanks
seashores
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I agree with everyone who posted on this subject that you should not attempt to do it. There are no pros to that idea.
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06-26-2009, 02:44 PM
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Liberator
1972 Argosy 24
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Heart of Dixie
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2006
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True Love
Put your dog in one crate, and your wife in another.
After an hour or so, pull over and go check on them,
Who is glad to see you?
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1972 Argosy 24'...
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06-26-2009, 02:56 PM
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Moderator

Vintage Kin Owner
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Long Long Trailer...
Ever seen the scene in the movie where Lucy decides to fix dinner between stops? The movie is somewhat exaggerated, but none the less I think that I would avoid it at all costs.
If you do decide to follow the advice of klattu please make sure to remove all sharp objects, and cast iron cookware before opening the cage you wife is in!!!!!!!!!!!
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06-26-2009, 05:26 PM
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4 Rivet Member 
1972 25' Tradewind
old mystic
, Connecticut
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 320
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Hey Kingfisher24, you were the one who was running away from home! How did your travels go? Are you planning anymore travels? So you thinking of taking the dog this time?
We are leaving on July 11th for our first out west adventure in our AS can't wait!
Annette
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06-26-2009, 08:08 PM
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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, Illinois
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,477
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Knowing that nothing is 100% safe, I'd be reluctant to keep any live animal in the trailer. I know I've said this a lot in the past, but I saw a horrible wreck coming home from the summer midwest rally in 2004. Trailer rolled, contents of trailer all over the grassy median of the highway and the couples pooch was in the trailer, got out from the front end ripped open, was unhurt, and was running down the Interstate. I figure if it's not good for humans, it's not fit for beast....of course I say this as a rabid animal fan.
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06-26-2009, 09:27 PM
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Rivet Master 
2005 22' Safari
Gresham
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 621
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Quote:
Originally Posted by klattu
Put your dog in one crate, and your wife in another.
After an hour or so, pull over and go check on them,
Who is glad to see you?
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Or better yet, have wife and dog in TV and papa in the crate in the TT
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06-27-2009, 06:58 AM
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Islander
2005 28' International CCD
Deer Harbor
, ORCAS ISLAND WA
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 981
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thanks for the replies
one of those questions where one knows the answer but wanted to run it up the flagpole to see who saluted.... I did and am running away from home...since april 1st have logged about 8000 miles in texas, arkansas, tenessee, kentucky and ohio and and returning to ohio for a pig roast, where i am the honored chef, on the 4th of july.. and then, new mexico, and then the texas coast, and then????
and susan if , if i had kids i would probably drag them behind the coach  just think of what horses, cows, pigs and sheep go through being in a trailer...is it different....because they are cows, pigs, sheep and we age going to eat them???????
and the dog would still be glad to see me and the wife never would be!!!! 
thanks
seashores
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06-28-2009, 02:15 AM
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Rivet Master 
2005 19' Safari
GLENDALE
, AZ
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,453
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Our 19-foot Bambi gets filled with exhaust fumes on long trips, and we remove the batteries from the carbon monoxide alarm while we are on the road. When we stop, we run the Fantastic Fan for several minutes before entering the trailer, and I put the batteries back in the alarm as part of the trailer setup procedure.
This is less obvious a hazard with newer tow vehicles, many of which have catalytic converters that reduce the smell of vehicle exhaust. We learned this years ago from our old 1978, 3/4 ton, Chevy pickup. It had absolutely no smog controls, and the exhaust smell was really obnoxious in our trailer to the point of making your eyes water and making you choke. When the carbon-monoxide alarm continued to go off in our Airstream when we switched to a new Toyota Tundra last summer, we realized that the problem still existed, even though the exhaust smell was less obvious.
I would worry about carbon-monoxide poisoning for any live animal (or person) riding in the trailer for an extended length of time...
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07-20-2009, 10:59 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
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scottsdale
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I have been warned to crate the dogs once we start traveling in our 1987 Airstream 345. If there is an accident and they are in their crates, they can't get out and get lost or get run over.
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07-21-2009, 05:20 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"

2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,357
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 We had an accident years ago when our OES was not crated, when I got out to exchange info he bolted from the truck. He would never get in the truck on his own again.
 You fasten your seatbelt, please crate the critters.
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07-21-2009, 09:34 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
Currently Looking...
scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS
 We had an accident years ago when our OES was not crated, when I got out to exchange info he bolted from the truck. He would never get in the truck on his own again.
 You fasten your seatbelt, please crate the critters.
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That reminds me. They make seat belt harnesses for dogs. For those that don't wish to crate you could give that a try.
Karen
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