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Old 01-29-2012, 09:09 PM   #21
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What ever you look at remember to add 2500 lbs to that weight of the trailer for all extras such as clothes, food, cooking supplies (ie Dishes, pans), camping gear.
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2500 lbs of gear? Aren't you over the GVWR for both your 31' and the 34'? You need to lighten your load!
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Old 01-29-2012, 09:21 PM   #22
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Notice how most everyone's TV is the best one on the road ever made forever in history.

Take your time and you too just may be allowed to join the club.

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Old 01-29-2012, 09:27 PM   #23
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As others have already said, you would be hard pressed to find a 1/2 ton truck that could not pull your AS trailer. However, then come the hills ( loooooooong ride up the mountains around here) and you make it to the top after innumerable transmission hunting for gear / shifts ... then comes the downhill where you notice the potentially small difference between the mass of your tow vehicle and the mass of your trailer ... yeouchhh, quickly, review the laws of physics ... you know energy = mass times velocity or speed raised to the second power ... and you are needing to control that mass (hopefully, still) behind you ... any wagging (or what happens when a semi passes YOU?) ... can you smell the brakes / any fading ... how is the transmission temp ... what is happening with the engine temp after the long haul up and now you're headed down hill.

Remember, your dealer can download recent profiles and knows exactly what conditions caused your TV to potentially fail. Can you do it with a half ton ... certainly, we did (ecomonics / budgets considered) with only a 20FC - and now miss our F15o around town. Butttt ... wow, do we like the Ram 3/4 ton diesel and can hardly wait to hook up and hit the road! Our AS and us both deserve the larger mass of our new 3/4 ... as I told the new recruits when considering personal equipment purchases ... what is your safety / life worth vs how much can you afford to spend ? But then we are relative newcomers to this AS disease ...
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Old 01-29-2012, 09:54 PM   #24
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Oh boy, our half-tons are risking life and limb of all around us. How do the folks with BMW, Mercedes, and VW SUV's make it out of the driveway?

So get the trailer and THEN match the tow vehicle to it. If you ask for advice here may be oversized by two or three times. Or undersized by two or three times.

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For my retirement I wanted a camper and a truck that'd last 10 years because I expected I'd only last 10 years. So I bought an Airstream and a big honkin' Chevy diesel truck.Two years into it, I believe we'll all exceed the expectation.
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Old 01-29-2012, 10:13 PM   #26
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Many 1/2 ton vehicles have the ability to tow 7,000 pounds, but don't have the brakes one needs to stop in an emergency, or to go down a long steep hill. To be safe, your tow vehicle should always exceed the gross towing weight, by 20% or 30%.
That is the key...!! it might be able to tow it but when you get into a harry situation will you be able to stop it...? You will never regret an "overkill" tow vehicle!!

BTW - our 1 ton makes great grocery hauler during the week!!!

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We bought our diesel 3/4 ton 4wd crewcab long before we bought an Airstream... but it's well matched to our trailering. I can head off to Burning Man w/ the whole family, an extra 55 gallons of water in a barrel in the back of the truck, and all the stuff we need for a week in the desert - and pull it over Donner Pass.

I'd get the largest truck that makes economic sense for you, particularly if you don't need to drive it solo much of the time.

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We bought our diesel 3/4 ton 4wd crewcab long before we bought an Airstream... but it's well matched to our trailering. I can head off to Burning Man w/ the whole family, an extra 55 gallons of water in a barrel in the back of the truck, and all the stuff we need for a week in the desert - and pull it over Donner Pass.

I'd get the largest truck that makes economic sense for you, particularly if you don't need to drive it solo much of the time.

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Not to gang up on the half ton crowd but two years ago I was coming off Donner Pass and had a harrowing experience. It was late May and temps in the seventies when we left Sacramento but at the top of the pass it started snowing and temp dropped to 28 degrees....thanks to my one ton Dually Dodge we made it safely into Reno an hour before they closed the pass. Another time coming off Cabbage Hill into Pendleton....you get the idea. Just think everyone needs more margin than they "might" get away with.
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Anyone have any feedback on using a Ford Expedition or Dodge Durango as a tow vehicle?
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Also, does anyone know the factory weight on a 1966 26" Overlander?
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Also, does anyone know the factory weight on a 1966 26" Overlander?
Looks like 4250 dry with no additional options.
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Old 01-30-2012, 07:07 AM   #35
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Thanks for the quick responses. Now I will need to research the Ford Expedition and Dodge Durango to see which vehicle will be better for towing my trailer.
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I would look at a Dodge Ram rather than a Durango. We use an extended cab long box 3/4 ton pickup to tow our 26' Argosy. When loaded and ready for the road the Argosy weighs 5600#. The truck weighs 6400# with people, gear and a full tank. It's a good match. I would not want a lighter or shorter truck. A diesel would be nice from the torque aspect. The 360 gas engine with a 5 speed manual transmission does the job. The truck averages 11 mpg when towing and 16 mpg by it self.
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You don't need a big truck to get big brakes. And that oversized truck has to stop itself before it can stop your Airstream.

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You need to get the big truck with the diesel to get the exhaust brake though.

9% downgrade for the next 4 miles? No problem! Tap the brake and they shift down and hold that speed. Tap again to slow another 10mph. No more burning, fading brakes.

Braking would be the worst category to compare a half ton against the 3/4 - 1 ton trucks.
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It's all about comfort and convenience. For the first 20 years I went camping I didn't have an Airstream.
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Newbe's... We are looking to buy an Airstream but also need the truck. We are looking at the 25-28 footers. Wondering if a new Chevy 1/2 ton pickup or Tahoe will pull the newer Airstreams? Or will we need to get a 3/4 ton?? Thanks for any & all advice.
The half tons work with some 25' models, but you have to equip the truck properly and you have to be aware of loading limitations, and not go stir crazy with piling it on.

As you go bigger on the trailer and/or the loading the 3/4 tons get more desirable.

If the half ton will do and have a bit of extra margin, its a nicer everyday vehicle IMO. If it won't, it won't then hit the heavier duty trucks. My thought is size it correctly, not undersized or grossly oversized.
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