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06-10-2013, 05:56 AM
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#81
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2 Rivet Member
2010 23' FB Flying Cloud
Smithville
, Texas
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 93
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Tried to change the truck on my profile and it won't change? Anyone help me with that.
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2010 FC23FB
2016 F-350 6.7 Diesel (Overkill and loving it)
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06-10-2013, 07:34 PM
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#82
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Rivet Master
2012 30' Flying Cloud
San Antonio
, Texas
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 682
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lsbrodsky
Not sure why you say that about a Chev 1/2 ton, the receiver can easily handle that. It seems the limitation on the 1/2 ton comes with how much stuff you can load in the truck once you add that tongue weight...not a lot.
Larry
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Just passing on what GMC told me. The Hitch Receiver on the 2011 1/2 ton Chevy was tongue weight limited to 600#. Since a Class III ball mount is a 600# TW and 6000# tow weight, I could only conclude that the Tow package on that truck was a Class III. I'm sure it would tow A 7500-8000# pound Airstream with a 800# TW just fine. But you would be over weight per specs. I just took off the factory hitch/sold on Craig's list and replaced with a class IV.
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06-10-2013, 07:42 PM
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#83
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Rivet Master
2012 30' Flying Cloud
San Antonio
, Texas
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 682
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Kline
Tried to change the truck on my profile and it won't change? Anyone help me with that.
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one way: Click on "private messages" under your Welcome name in the upper right hand corner of Forum page. Then on the left side see control panel: Edit details. That will take you to the page to change things.
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06-10-2013, 10:15 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 27' Safari FB SE
Rancho Murieta
, California
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 249
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Good call, M.hony. I will do just that. Also...I did hear a rumor that Toyota is coming out with a diesel motor in the next year or two. This is really fun to watch all of the truck manufacturers vie for our tow vehicle dollar! It just gets better and better!
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06-11-2013, 03:39 AM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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Toyota considered a diesel dully before the economic collapse in '08. It was to have a Hino 6 cylinder diesel motor. There are pictures of the concept floating around on the net. You ought to do have a look.
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06-11-2013, 11:15 AM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,702
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Persistent rumors about the Tundra include diesel and a 3/4 ton version. So far, none have been true for 6 years.
The truck is built as if they would eventually come out with 3/4 ton version and not have to change brakes, differential and some other parts. I think of it as a 5/8 ton.
Gene
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The Airstream is sold; a 2016 Nash 24M replaced it.
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06-11-2013, 11:30 AM
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#87
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Moderator
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronman
I have a 2001 Tundra now and tow our 27FB Safari. No issues. Does it pull a 7 or 8% grade at 70 MPH? No but it does fine for now. I am currently looking at the 2013 Tundra. I think it is a great truck. While it is called a 1/2 ton, look at the ring gear and breaks. The 10.5" ring gear is 3/4 ton material. Large breaks and calipers. Don't be fooled by the 1/2 ton status.
The Ford ecoboost is also a good truck but things I am reading say they are having issues in high humidity regions like areas of Washington state.
One more thing...read the article on AS towing in the Winter edition of Airstream Life. VERY informative.
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Unless you're planning to buy a first-year Ecoboost and not have the TSB updates done, you wouldn't have a problem with humidity. That's been corrected for a long time now, but parts of the internet haven't caught up with that detail.
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06-11-2013, 08:10 PM
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#88
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3 Rivet Member
2007 27' Safari FB SE
Rancho Murieta
, California
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 249
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A 5/8 Ton! I love it!! And...I will use it!
Thanks, Gene!
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06-11-2013, 10:26 PM
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#89
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1 Rivet Member
1973 31' Sovereign
Everywhere West Coast
, CA, OR & WA
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 7
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We have a 2013 5.7 4x4 Tundra CrewMax Rock Warrior. We are pulling a 32' International Sovereign, and I don't think it does the trick. When we picked up the airstream, it towed great. Then we put all of our junk in it, got a new EZ Lift hitch & sway bar, and I feel like we are getting thrown around plenty.
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06-11-2013, 10:28 PM
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#90
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1 Rivet Member
1973 31' Sovereign
Everywhere West Coast
, CA, OR & WA
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MamaFitz
We have a 2013 5.7 4x4 Tundra CrewMax Rock Warrior. We are pulling a 32' International Sovereign, and I don't think it does the trick. When we picked up the airstream, it towed great. Then we put all of our junk in it, got a new EZ Lift hitch & sway bar, and I feel like we are getting thrown around plenty.
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Aaaaaand, it has a SUPER small gas tank. I'd say it's akin to the Volvo SUV I used to have.
But it was a great truck before our Airstream came along.
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06-12-2013, 05:42 AM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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I don't know that the feeling of being jerked around ever goes away. I have done many miles in a 2500HD Duramax and a 3500 Express and the feeling is still there sometimes worse than the Tundra. I think all ideas of introducing a 1 ton went out the window with the '08 market crash. We do feel less wagging of the truck with the Airstream than we did with our SOB. If there is no wind and the road is good we feel nothing. Must be the Airstream and the Equal-I-Zer. I would like to try towing with a Hensley.
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2007 Silver Toyota Tundra Crew Max Limited 5.7 iForce
2006 Vivid Black Harley-Davidson Road King Classic
1999 Black Nissan Pathfinder LE
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WBCCI #1811, Region 6, Unit 56
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06-12-2013, 06:07 AM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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When I get that trailer-wagging-the-truck feeling I look in the rear view and the trailer seems to be going straight down the road. I tend to think that feeling comes from the trailer weighing more than the truck.
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2013 Classic 30 Limited
2007 Silver Toyota Tundra Crew Max Limited 5.7 iForce
2006 Vivid Black Harley-Davidson Road King Classic
1999 Black Nissan Pathfinder LE
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WBCCI #1811, Region 6, Unit 56
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06-12-2013, 10:30 PM
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#93
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3 Rivet Member
2007 27' Safari FB SE
Rancho Murieta
, California
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 249
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m.hony,
I think you have a solid point. Again...I am driving a 2001 Tundra towing a 2007 27FB at 5300 lbs.+- dry. I intentionally tow light. No water, etc. and I have no issues. We have an Equalizer Hitch and I love it. Last weekend, we just drove from the California coast to the Bay Area, then through Highway 205 to the Central Valley in Northern California. Pretty heavy cross and tail winds and we didn't feel much. (25 - 35 MPH winds) I think it is the "Tail Wagging the Dog" Syndrome.
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06-12-2013, 11:17 PM
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#94
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1 Rivet Member
1973 31' Sovereign
Everywhere West Coast
, CA, OR & WA
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m.hony
I don't know that the feeling of being jerked around ever goes away. I have done many miles in a 2500HD Duramax and a 3500 Express and the feeling is still there sometimes worse than the Tundra. I think all ideas of introducing a 1 ton went out the window with the '08 market crash. We do feel less wagging of the truck with the Airstream than we did with our SOB. If there is no wind and the road is good we feel nothing. Must be the Airstream and the Equal-I-Zer. I would like to try towing with a Hensley.
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So an older 1 ton might shake this feeling?.... How it is currently just doesn't feel safe? I didn't even notice the trailer behind us without it loaded down, and it is not full to the gills. We've got the Equalizer and Sway bar, but I'm wondering what I'm missing with not having the Hensley System!? M-U-S-T Google M-O-R-E.
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06-12-2013, 11:23 PM
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#95
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Rivet Master
2015 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2013 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2012 20' Flying Cloud
Small Town
, *** Big Sky Country ***Western Montana
Join Date: Feb 2010
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Looked at a Tundra before we bought the Ram ... but many of our friends really like their Tundras as TV in Canada. With the Ram, the AS all but disappears on the flats and in the mountains!
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2022 Ford F350 6.2 V-8; equalizer hitch + Shocker air hitch
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06-13-2013, 06:17 AM
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TinCan
2016 30' Classic
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 880
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Starting to sound like a Ford salesman but if you spend time on the various Ford web sites they have lots of info and videos that explain how and why Ford trucks are trucks that are built for towing. Built in brake controller, uphill assist, downhill assist, sway control the list goes on and on. Really worth spending some time wandering around the web.
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06-13-2013, 07:30 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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The Hensley/ProPride system will cure the tail-wagging-the-dog syndrome.
doug k
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06-13-2013, 08:51 AM
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#98
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,702
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It is possible that those having problems with the tail wagging the dog have not set up their hitch properly. Or the dealer that sold them the hitch did not set it up properly.
There plenty of others without such problems with Tundras and trailers. I doubt it is the Tundra, at least on the middle weights (25', 27, 28').
Gene
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The Airstream is sold; a 2016 Nash 24M replaced it.
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06-13-2013, 09:38 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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Gene I doubt it's a Tundra problem as well, based on using the lighter duty 2006 Tundra towing our 25'. Replacing the soft factory tires with XL tires made things much more steady. Nor is it a Ram 1500 problem which we have now.
Hitches matter though, they need good weight distribution and sway control. I mentioned Hensley/Propride as the ultimate cure, eliminates sway altogether.
doug k
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06-13-2013, 10:10 AM
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#100
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,702
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Doug, we replaced our OEM LR C tires with LR E tires, but there was no sway before nor after. No doubt the $2K+ hitches are superior, at least for 30'+ trailers, but for us the Equalizer works just fine. Even when it was maladjusted by the dealer, no sway. I think it would have to be installed really, really badly to cause sway.
So either we are so insensitive as to not notice sway, others are imagining it, or their hitches are badly adjusted. I suppose the Airstream running gear could be screwed up too, even on a new one. I can't remember exactly who it was (one of the Bob's I think) who found his shocks were installed upside down, for ex. But older ones may have worn running gear that contributes to sway.
Detecting sway is somewhat subjective. When I am behind someone pulling a trailer, usually, but not always a utility trailer, swaying all over the lane, I wonder if he knows it. Inevitably they have no sway control at all and I want to get around them as soon as I can.
Gene
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The Airstream is sold; a 2016 Nash 24M replaced it.
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