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08-17-2020, 06:15 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1970 31' Sovereign
Tijeras
, New Mexico
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 35
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Towing a Severely Damaged 1970 Sovereign
I will be attempting to tow her from the Grand Canyon North Rim to near Albuquerque.
The roof collapsed due to 5’ of snow/ice. Two huge tears in the roof.
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08-18-2020, 07:55 AM
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#2
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2 Rivet Member
1970 31' Sovereign
Tijeras
, New Mexico
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 35
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08-18-2020, 08:03 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 31' Sovereign
Vintage Kin Owner
Vintage Kin Owner
Sunset Valley
, Texas
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 744
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brucenjen
I will be attempting to tow her from the Grand Canyon North Rim to near Albuquerque.
The roof collapsed due to 5’ of snow/ice. Two huge tears in the roof.
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Pictures didn’t come through.
Curious to know your plans for it regardless.
Did you have any questions or just letting us know which route to avoid while you’re towing it home😉. Either way, keep us in in the loop.
Ian
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08-18-2020, 08:12 AM
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Rivet Master
1973 21' Globetrotter
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,314
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Is this a trailer you already owned, or one that you purchased, knowing its current condition?
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08-18-2020, 09:16 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1964 30' Sovereign
Ione
, CA
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 249
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Sorry to hear about the damage to your trailer. Pictures?
This is close to home as we own a 1964 Sovereign 30'.
Regards...
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Mark & Melanie Trowbridge
1964 Airstream Sovereign 30' (Double)
2004 Dodge Ram QuadCab 4x4 Diesel
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08-18-2020, 12:15 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
1973 21' Globetrotter
1975 26' Argosy 26
Vista
, California
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 589
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X2 pictures! And curiosity
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08-18-2020, 04:09 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1962 19' Globetrotter
Jackson
, Mississippi
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 11
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How awful ! We’re you staying in it at the time ? Hope no one was hurt !
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08-18-2020, 05:20 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,701
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brucenjen
The roof collapsed due to 5’ of snow/ice. Two huge tears in the roof.
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Interesting. Especially this time of year...it's +90-degrees just about everywhere about now!
Seems like there is more than just ice/snow load that caused this! We get that much snow on ours every winter...never a problem. Did it slide off a tree or roof and crush it? Regardless, looks like a big project to fix! If it's not "already yours" I'd look for a different trailer...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iansk
Pictures didn’t come through.
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Right-click on the little blue box in the second post - it'll give you an option to open in google in a separate tab/window.
Shari
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08-19-2020, 02:52 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
1973 21' Globetrotter
1975 26' Argosy 26
Vista
, California
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 589
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I don’t think that is a 64’ the windows Are 70s style Some good parts I bet.
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08-19-2020, 03:15 PM
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Reformed Engineer
1967 26' Overlander
1987 32' Excella
2000 35' Land Yacht XL w/2 slides
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Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 57
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Definitely not a 64. Either a '69 or '70.
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08-19-2020, 03:20 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,701
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brucenjen
We haven't determined how to post pics here.
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Check out this ' How To' on posting pictures...
Shari
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08-19-2020, 05:01 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1970 31' Sovereign
Tijeras
, New Mexico
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 35
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The frame is stamped "Mfd. by Airstream 1-70." The owner and his workers insist it is a 1964. I saw the owner briefly as I was leaving to return home - What do I know - I wasn't going to argue with him. Thanks for verifying the date.
And so it begins >
the Airstream dealer and best local trailer parts store have no record of bearings or brake parts this far back. [The local Airstream dealer won't work on one this old.] The nearest auto parts store will be an hour away.
Don't know if the brake/turn/running lights will work - I assume the wires for them go down the center of the ceiling. The inner roof covers the wiring.
My Arizona DMV appointment for the drive out permit is the first week of September. It's 2 hours away from the trailer site.
I may wrap it with a tow strap, place wooden vertical struts inside and bolt horizontal struts across the gash.
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08-19-2020, 05:21 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1970 31' Sovereign
Tijeras
, New Mexico
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 35
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Thanks for the pic assistance Shari. However, my nephew's pics are on his google drive and they are HEIC format. You can't just drag and drop them to the desktop. JPGs on my desktop are no problem.
The trailer should look good with my 1970 Honda Trail 90(s). Yes - senior '70.
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08-19-2020, 07:21 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1970 31' Sovereign
Tijeras
, New Mexico
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 35
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A few pics.
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08-19-2020, 08:12 PM
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Rivet Master
1962 22' Safari
2016 30' Classic
Southeast
, Michigan
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,986
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The photos are of a 1970 Airstream. Definitely not a 1964. Totallly different shell shapes. The serial number confirms it is a 1970 31' Sovereign International built in Cerritos, California. The "1-70" confirms it was built in January 1970.
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Joe
Wally Byam Caravan Club International Historian
Vintage Airstream Club Historian
WBCCI/VAC #702 & #6768
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08-19-2020, 08:26 PM
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 15,606
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The year of the trailer has been determined, but from the pictures it looks like it's only value would be as scrap. The cost of making the trailer functional would far exceed any possible value for a 70 31 footer.
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Richard
Wally Byam Airstream Club 7513
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08-19-2020, 08:32 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 17' Caravel
Pocatello
, Idaho
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 944
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Quote:
Originally Posted by azflycaster
The year of the trailer has been determined, but from the pictures it looks like it's only value would be as scrap. The cost of making the trailer functional would far exceed any possible value for a 70 31 footer.
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Wow. X2.
Vivian
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08-19-2020, 10:33 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
1973 21' Globetrotter
1975 26' Argosy 26
Vista
, California
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 589
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It’s best value is in body parts, hatches windows , is the door straight?
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08-20-2020, 05:26 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1970 31' Sovereign
Tijeras
, New Mexico
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 35
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The door seems straight. I often recycle light industrial equipment [Recycled Sales on Ebay]. IF I can get this back to New Mexico, piecing it out is certainly a possibility. The ends look okay. I won't know how many ribs/bows are bent or broken until I get her here.
This housed staff intermittently for more than a decade with no towing.
Anybody know if electric brakes were standard on the 1970 Sovereign?
Thx
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