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Old 04-16-2018, 10:15 AM   #1
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Considering either a cayenne or Nissan Armada for TV. Any thoughts from anyone which way I should go. Thanks. Open to suggestions
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First you need to tell us what you are planning on towing.
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And how much “stuff” you want to carry for a trip.
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And where you are planning to drive.
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Planning on traveling all over the country. Just 2 of us and we are considering purchasing a Globetrotter.We would like to stick with an SUV. We dont want a large truck. Thanks for your help
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We are making progress here JD. Now let us know what kind of Globetrotter. Will it be a new one or an older unit? How long will it be?

I hope you are getting the idea. It is almost impossible to suggest a TV not knowing how long and how heavy your trailer is going to be. You certainly can tow some Airstreams with an SUV.
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What is the towing capacity of those vehicles? If the max is 7,000lbs, you do not want to be running at the max all the time. You want to some leeway. Also look at the payload. Doesn't take much to get to the payload limits of some vehicles.

The new globetrotter on the web page states it's got a hitch weight of 820lbs and dry weight of 6200lbs. Max full weight of about 7600lbs. You can pull that with an SUV, but you will want something that can probably max out at 9,000lbs of pulling capacity and has a payload of around 1500 to 2000lbs. The Armada has a pulling capacity of 8500lbs and payload of about 1700lbs. I would ask what the hitch weight max is. It might need some beefing up, which can be done. Does it have a max tow haul package? You definitely want that. Also what kind of mileage will you get pulling and what's the size of the gas tank? But based upon those stats it looks doable. You won't be tearing up the mountains though in it. A friend of mine who is driving through the mountains with his camper says most of what he sees are diesels. But he's pulling his with a 1/2 ton and is doing fine. But I believe his is rated at over 10,000lbs.

If I were to get an SUV I would consider the Ford Expedition with the 3.5 Ecoboost. It pulls 9300lbs and has 480lbs of torque at 2500rpms. That Ecoboost really pulls well. I have it in my F150 with a 10 speed transmission, and you will find that it's a good tradeoff say from a 3/4 ton gas or diesel. I have a 28' AS that has a hitch weight of 950lbs, about 7800lbs capacity on the trailer. I have no problem keeping up with traffic on the freeway or in going up hills.

Also if it were me I would consider getting a Hensely or Propride hitch to add to the towing stability. That's what I put on my F150 and it made the towing experience far more stable. Stability is the one thing that this type of vehicle will be lacking verses a heavier towing vehicle like a 3/4 ton.

Having said that if I were towing in the mountains a lot I would probably go with a 3/4 ton diesel.

But you are about to get all kinds of opinions. And I just gave you mine. Big decision. Blessings and whatever you do think safety.
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Considering either a cayenne or Nissan Armada for TV. Any thoughts from anyone which way I should go. Thanks. Open to suggestions
The 27’ is too big to pull with a mid size vehicle. Get something bigger, with a V8 gas or diesel. 3/4 ton minimum especially if you plan to drive in the mountains.
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I have about 25k miles towing experience with the QX / armada platform. It did a very fine job for our 25’ which was 7,600 gvwr and 760lbs on the hitch (measured on cat scales)

When we moved to a 30’ I towed with the QX for another 3k miles. The 30’ is more akin to the globetrotter at 8,800lbs gvwr with 990 at the hitch. Globetrotter May even be heavier load on the hitch when loaded for camping - airstream specs are notoriously out of wack. Always plan for gvwr for the trailer and 1,000 lbs+ at the hitch for a 27’+ loaded and ready for camping.

Towing the heavier and longer 30’ took a lot more concentration on the highway and on windy mountain roads. The rig was more “lively” with cross winds, etc. The braking system worked noticeably harder in the mountains and so did the engine (we live at the foot of the Rockies). I’ve got some miles under my belt but even so I over heated the QX brakes on one occasion coming down from Rocky Mountain National Park.

In the end I moved up to a 3/4 ton diesel and have not looked back. Far more peaceful towing experience. Effortless. It’s a dedicated tow vehicle for the airstream and my wife shares driving duties.

You can get away with the QX / current generation armada with 850lb hitch rating and 1,450lb payload rating (assuming you don’t exceed that too much with the globetrotter tongue weight) but you will find yourself at the limit, which will definitely rattle your nerves if you are new to towing.

PS - I agree with the poster above - if you End up with an SUV invest in a propride hitch. Just remember though, it will eat up an additional 200lbs of payload capacity. 1,450 payload for the QX - 1,000lb tongue weight -200lb hitch weight leaves just 250 lbs for things like the driver and a medium sized dog and nothing else.
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