Free 7 Day Trial RV GPS App RV Trip Planner Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Free 7 Day Trial ×

Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 06-02-2019, 03:02 PM   #1
2 Rivet Member
Grimsby , Ontario
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 20
Safari 25 SE FB/Can-Am set-up

So we took delivery of our wonderful 2007 Safari 25 SE FB late last week and had CanAm carry out their hitch/set-up magic on my 2006 Toyota 4runner Sport Edition. The trip home was pretty uneventful, but something really unexpected happened. While towing, it was apparent that the Safari was back there, but even in some cross winds and aside many large trucks it was very stable and controllable. Braking was very much the same, the larger Sport brakes on the 4runner worked in lockstep with the AS brakes and did a fantastic job of scrubbing off speed. Aside from the first five or ten minutes of getting used to keeping that 8.5ft wide trailer between the lines, we stuck in the slow lane and travelled between 95 and 105km/h the entire way very comfortably. It was when we got home that the strangeness ensued....

A few kilometers down from CanAm is a town called Lambeth. The morning of our delivery we went in to Lambeth to top up the tank on the 4runner before hooking up the Safari and heading home. When we arrived home later that day, some 181km later, the 4runner had consumed a little more than one quarter of it's 78L tank of fuel. The trip computer used to sit at a steady 14.2L/100km and had actually dropped to 13.8L/100km. This is actually comparable if not slightly better than when not towing? I know CanAm gassed up my tires to the max, so there would be less rolling resistance where that is concerned, and I manually selected gears and did not go higher than fourth, but I can't see those things being a considerable factor. Needless to say I was very pleasantly surprised - has anyone else experienced this? I was under the impression that the 1GR powered Toyotas were pigs when towing, but my experience thus far has indicated otherwise...
Ssm_001 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2019, 03:36 PM   #2
Rivet Master
AldeanFan's Avatar
1977 23' Safari
Niagara on the Lake , Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 880
Images: 3
Not possible that you got better mileage towing a trailer.

That distance isnít enough for a real test.

How fast do you drive not towing?
My tundra really sucks up the gas at anything over 100km/h, 130km/h without the trailer is probably equal to 100km/h with the trailer.

Next is hills, there are a few trips we do that are mostly uphill one way and obviously downhill on the return. We always get much better mileage on the downhill trip.
1977 Safari Land Yacht
2005 Toyota Tundra SR5
2010 Ford Flex Ecoboost
AldeanFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2019, 03:40 PM   #3
Rivet Master

2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor , New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,550
If you had a tail wind, that can make a huge difference if you are otherwise being frugal on the gas. Also, as you recognize, higher tire pressure can help more than most folks recognize.

Probably a random event IMO, even assuming the chain of causation in your mind is possible.

Take a longer trip and compute gas mileage by actual miles driven, and actual gas consumed. The car's computer is only so helpful, and can be misleading.

OTRA15 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2019, 03:47 PM   #4
2 Rivet Member
Grimsby , Ontario
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 20
I drive 105-110km/h regularly.

I topped up the tank when I left our home town and we were at three quarters when we got to CanAm.

Topped up again before leaving London and arrived with slightly less than three quarters of a tank when we got home.

Next morning it still measured the same, slightly less than three quarters.

I understand that the trip computer is about as accurate as an Atari in these things, but the fuel level gauge has never led me astray on anything that wasn't British and equipped with Lucas electronics.
Ssm_001 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2019, 03:53 PM   #5
Rivet Master

2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor , New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,550
Much more accurate to log actual miles and actual gallons/liters of gas, in a log book, over a long trip.

OTRA15 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2019, 04:05 PM   #6
2 Rivet Member
Grimsby , Ontario
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 20
For certain, however even with a statistically significant margin of error it is nowhere near as bad as I had heard it would be.
Ssm_001 is offline   Reply With Quote

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tools wanted - Buck rivet set and Cleco set TinCan Don Ribs, Skins & Rivets 0 01-14-2019 07:46 PM
The Can Can Can travelfables Member Introductions 3 02-01-2014 01:56 PM
"I think I can, I think I can, I think I can".... 2Rhinos Repairing/Replacing Floor &/or Frame 14 08-17-2011 01:39 PM
Questions on hitch set set up for my Dodge Astriking Hitches, Couplers & Balls 13 04-25-2011 05:03 AM
Can I set up as park model and still have black tank? vhord Waste Systems, Tanks & Totes 16 02-15-2008 05:51 AM

Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Airstream, Inc. or any of its affiliates. Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:58 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.