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Old 07-05-2023, 02:16 PM   #1
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Photos of unsafe towing setups

Thought I would start a thread to share observations of unsafe towing.

The main topics it would be interesting to share are: Overloaded tow vehicles, overloaded trailers, towing without WD hitches when WD is clearly necessary, etc, etc.

I'll start with a contribution. I was traveling north on I75 in Dallas around 11am today when I spotted this truck/trailer combination driving north in the middle lane. The tongue weight of this trailer was clearly too much for this truck and when I pulled even with the trailer hitch, they were towing 'on the ball' without a WD hitch. This truck + trailer combo 'might' have been safe if WD was being used and had been setup properly.

The amount of porpoising this combo was displaying would have been comical if it wasn't so scary to be sharing the road with these folks.

I don't know if the photos will show it, but the combination of trailer and truck formed a pronounced V shape as the heavy tongue depress the rear of the truck, leaving the tail end of the trailer a couple of feet higher than it should have been and the nose of the truck was at least 12+ inches too high.

I could only snap two photos before I had to take the I635 exit from I75.

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Hope your lane assist is on while you engage in distracted driving. Who’s the hazard here?
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Old 07-05-2023, 02:58 PM   #3
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Hope your lane assist is on while you engage in distracted driving. Who’s the hazard here?
Funny Gene, but a fair point.

Wasn't difficult to take a couple of photos. Not much traffic around and I looked around to make sure the area around me was pretty open for the 2 or 3 seconds I needed to snag a couple of photos.

On my phone, I can squeeze one external button to open up the photo app and squeeze the button again to take a photo without having to look at the phone. That's why I wasn't sure how good the photos would be until I got home and looked at them.
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Lane assist is driving with my left knee
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Wasn't difficult to take a couple of photos.

On my phone, I can squeeze one external button to open up the photo app and squeeze the button again to take a photo without having to look at the phone. That's why I wasn't sure how good the photos would be until I got home and looked at them.
No explanation needed. Now it just sounds creepy.
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Old 07-06-2023, 09:09 AM   #6
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Hi

An even more interesting part of this: If you get a chance, have a chat with some of these folks. I haven't talked to very many of them. However, of the ones I have chatted with, pretty much all of them realize that what they are doing is somewhere in the range between wrong and suicidal.

Next layer to that is: if you realize how bad this is, why? In some cases the answer is a temporary lash up to get somewhere. In others it's a very basic "haven't gotten around to it yet".

While it's fun to pick on RV folks, this kind of thing is by no means restricted to them. Head over to someplace like a marina. Watch folks hitch giant boats to undersized vehicles. If you pick the right facility ( = big boats) you won't have to wait very long. Somewhat more rarely, you can see the same thing over longer distances.

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Old 07-06-2023, 10:04 AM   #7
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Uncle Bob,

Another form of entertainment is watching some of those folks back the boats down the boat ramps.
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Old 07-12-2023, 09:42 AM   #10
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You finger waggers could have communicated with the OP privately. Instead you hijacked a thoughtful thread and wasted readers' time having to sift through your needless moralizing and poor attempts at humor.
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You finger waggers could have communicated with the OP privately. Instead you hijacked a thoughtful thread and wasted readers' time having to sift through your needless moralizing and poor attempts at humor.
On the contrary.

They nailed it.
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Well I don't care if someone is doing something dangerous or stupid. Hey have fun.
BUT...when it endangers others because of it, it should be addressed.
Of course informing said idiots of their misdeeds usually has the reaction of "It won't happened to me and it hasn't happened yet"
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I'd like to see this rig at the boat launch.

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Old 07-12-2023, 10:51 AM   #14
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I noticed the guys left rear stabilizer Jack is pretty close to the ground as well. He probably needs the low ride in the front of the RV to keep it from dragging.
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Foobar. I’m surprised you didn’t want to start your “unsafe towing setups” with a picture of your own rig after you drove thousands of miles to have your hitch “expertly” set up by CanAm?
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JustInfinity, you did exactly what you just criticized.

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Hitch basket

I don’t have any pics, whew! But driving home from Florida one year we saw a 28 ft trailer with a large generator in a receiver hitch basket on the back of trailer. The expressway had a few dips and the generator and hitch basket would wildy swing about 6” up then 6” down. It was absolutely terrifying. We seen a few bikes on the back bumper of a trailer suffer the same fate.
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Foobar. I’m surprised you didn’t want to start your “unsafe towing setups” with a picture of your own rig after you drove thousands of miles to have your hitch “expertly” set up by CanAm?
Nice try Gene.

CanAmRv reinforced the hitch in my Cayenne and sold me the equipment before I had received my trailer.

I installed my hitch at the dealer in the parking lot with the temperature sitting at 105F.

I didn't get the setup quite right before my initial towing trip home from the dealer because this was my first ever experience with any WD hitch. The ball ended up about 1.5" too high, resulting in a slightly nose up towing configuration.

I took the photo you referenced when I got home. By no means did this setup look really bad (unless you are one of those folks who think someone must have a 3/4 or half to pickup to tow a larger Airstream with) nor was it unstable.

With the slight nose up situation, there was some minor porpoising that I didn't like, but I corrected that a couple of days later when I had a chance to evaluate/tweak my setup and consult with some folks who helped critique my setup.

Later, I retuned the WD setup and bar tension again once I had everything loaded up for our first camping trip.

7000 miles of towing so far. No problems. This combination of trailer and tow vehicle is stable, comfortable, and safe. It's not a poster child for anything unsafe. You might not agree with it, but I respect that.
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I'd like to see this rig at the boat launch.



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I wonder how they managed to get both of these hitched up in the first place? Maybe they have a jack with a wheel on the boat trailer.
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Another form of entertainment is watching some of those folks back the boats down the boat ramps.
I lived in Naples, Fl. for 13 years. 2001/2014. I spent many Saturday/Sunday mornings and afternoons at Wiggins Pass watching folks launch/retrieve there boats. Hilarious! More than once I watched as the TV floated out into the water. Some folks just could not back up 10 feet without jack knifing. You just have to wonder what folks are thinking.
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