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Old 07-17-2019, 08:38 PM   #1
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New Ford Expedition (2019+) Towing

Wondering if anyone has direct owner experience towing an Airstream - 2015FC 25' or better - with the new model (2019+) of the Ford Expedition. Currently towing with a 2013 F150 8 cyl. Platinum, which is fine - but the new Expeditions seem to be very capable on paper of towing the FC's 7,000+ lbs.

If you have experience what is your impression of driving characteristics while towing, especially going up and down mountain passes/inclines (say Oak Creek Canyon in Sedona, Bear Mt in CA, etc. or any of the other passes one finds through the greater US West)? Does the driver assist tech hinder or help in your long distance driving? Is there something you like or particularly dislike about the vehicle. Thanks for your input. Steve A.
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Old 07-17-2019, 09:23 PM   #2
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I have a 2013 expedition EL 4x4, the issue I have with it, and I am not sure if it has changed in subsequent years, is with the rear axle max weight of 4250lbs. I am always right on it or a little over. For info I have the HD towing and a payload of 1397lbs

Pretty sure I will stick with an expedition next time around too as I do like them.

Not sure how this will help you, sorry if it is only color commentary.
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Old 07-18-2019, 09:32 PM   #3
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We tow a 2013 flying cloud with a 2018 Expedition Max, which is essentially identical to the 2019 model. We upgraded to the Max from a 2008 EL Expy. The Max is better in every way, except it is about the same on towing fuel economy. When not towing it is better. We have not towed out west with the Max, however it is so much better in torque and power that I would not expect to have any trouble whatsoever in the places you describe. When in tow/haul mode the engine braking is great on downhill runs. We use the driver assist features fully, and that is one of the main reasons we wanted to upgrade from the earlier model. The best feature in my opinion is the added horsepower and torque, the new safety/assist features and the 10-speed transmission. There are two of us and three small animals, and we have enough payload capacity and stay within all weight limits as well. We have no regrets whatsoever in having made the change.
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Edistobob - a few questions if you don’t mind!

1. what trim do you have? Limited?
2. Is it 4x4?
3 could you post a pic of your door sticker, or state the payload capacity, axle capacity and the grooms vehicle weight?

Sorry for the questions but it would be super helpful!
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Old 07-19-2019, 01:07 AM   #5
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There is a really good video review of new Ford Expedition towing capabilities here:

https://youtu.be/iotsvKYMOCU
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Edistobob - a few questions if you donít mind!

1. what trim do you have? Limited?
2. Is it 4x4?
3 could you post a pic of your door sticker, or state the payload capacity, axle capacity and the grooms vehicle weight?

Sorry for the questions but it would be super helpful!


Trim is Platinum
Yes, 4x4
Payload 1577
GVWR 7720
Front GAWR 3550
Rear GAWR 4380

Let me know if you have any other questions.
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Old 07-19-2019, 07:45 AM   #7
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Trim is Platinum
Yes, 4x4
Payload 1577
GVWR 7720
Front GAWR 3550
Rear GAWR 4380

Let me know if you have any other questions.
You superstar! Thank you!

The numbers that really impress me here are the rear GAWR and the payload, particularly as this is on the Platinum trim.

I have the 2013 4x4 EL in Limited trim and I as a result: rear GAWR 4250 and payload 1397. I think the front GAWR is the same, not sure about the GVWR on mine but I think it is about 7500.
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Old 07-19-2019, 08:06 AM   #8
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The numbers that really impress me here are the rear GAWR and the payload, particularly as this is on the Platinum trim...


Yes, I think Ford did a great job on making this a very capable tow vehicle for appropriately sized trailers.
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Old 07-19-2019, 10:17 AM   #9
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I just bought a 2019 Expedition Platinum a week ago. Slightly different numbers: Front 3375, rear 4380, GVWR 7450.

I haven't towed with it, getting my 1,0000 miles real in now.

The Platinum claims a little extra torque than the other lines - if you put 91 octane or better in it.
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Old 07-19-2019, 10:27 AM   #10
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Just curious: what is the payload as listed on the yellow door sticker for your 2019? And that is not the longer Max, correct?
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It's not a Max. Payload 1507. Second row buckets and heavy duty towing package, of course.
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I now can say I have extensive towing experience with my 25' and my Expedition.

I finally reached the 1,000 mile break-in and hitched up the Airstream so I could take it to a level place to set up the hitch.

I drove it two and a half miles down the hill to a level parking lot where I could do it. I expected to spend an hour or so adjusting things. It didn't anything, based on the wheel well measurements. So I drove it back up the hill and parked it.

However, in those five miles it towed great. The tow/haul mode kept me off the brakes on the way own and the RPMs were low on the way up.

I'll give it a better test this weekend when we go about an hour and a half away. Then in a few weeks we'll head out for a real trip. When it's fully loaded with dogs and people and stuff I'll put it on the scales. I'm not expecting to have to make major changes.

We're loving this vehicle.
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Expedition will be my next TV with bigger AS
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Looking at the Expedition also. One thing I noted is that the recommended fuel is "regular unleaded" but then in the detailed specs it has a note that the 480 ft-lbs torque is with 93 octane fuel. I like the fact it has the self tuning capability to take advantage of higher octane but seems a bit misleading to also have regular as the recommended fuel.
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Looking at the Expedition also. One thing I noted is that the recommended fuel is "regular unleaded" but then in the detailed specs it has a note that the 480 ft-lbs torque is with 93 octane fuel. I like the fact it has the self tuning capability to take advantage of higher octane but seems a bit misleading to also have regular as the recommended fuel.
True, but it's not a huge leap in torque and I'm thinking I won't need it. But it's nice to know you can get the extra when you want.
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I am wondering how the independent suspension works on the rear wheels vs the pickup. I would think it should ride better. Will be interesting to see what people say.
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Hey everyone, first post since we are brand new to this... We are looking at buying a 2018 Expedition with the towing package to tow our 30í 2019 Flying Cloud. We are a little worried about maxing the payload capacity of 1,500 lbs. It would be 2 adults and 3 kids (9, 8, 5) but want to make sure we leave plenty of room as they grow and we load cargo. Do you think this is going to be an issue? Thx in advance for the help!
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We tow a 2013 25' RB Flying Cloud with our 2018 Expy with HD tow. Personally I think your plan is pushing the payload of the Expy. It is two of us, three small animals and other paraphernalia we carry in the Expy, plus the tongue weight. We don't go over any capacities, but neither do we have much cushion. I think you'd likely be over payload with your plan. In any event you wouldn't have "plenty" of room left.
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I got the Expedition Max SLT with tow package, Only to find out that tow mirrors are NOT an option. I tried two different after market and they did NOT allow for adjustment. They restricted movement of the auto mirrors.
After 2k miles I get about 11-12 mpg towing 2010 25 ft FC; 21-22 mpg not.
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I have the 2018 Max with max tow and 4x4. I went with the XLT and have similar specs to Edistobob, but was able to pickup additional payload by limiting the extras in the higher packages. Payload is 1714 lb.

The limiting factor always seems to be payload and hitch weight. We are looking at picking up our Airstream next year and ideally it would be the 25. My concern is the hitch weight which is limited to 900 lb in the Max. Has anyone been able to rebalance the 25 tongue weight to mitigate this issue? From what I've read Airstream appears to understate this weight and some Airstreamers report fully-loaded tongue weights as high as 1200 lb. Thoughts...
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