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07-24-2016, 05:48 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
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Just because you can...
DW has a great phrase: "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should."
Extreme example for dramatic effect included in the pic.
I though we could have a topic on learnings from experience about ideas that seemed good at the time but in retrospect- not so much.
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07-24-2016, 05:51 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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I'll start.
My truck has a 2.5" receiver and I had heard stories in the forums about troubles with reducer sleeves. So when I ordered my hitch I ordered a 2.5" bar. It weighs a ton and there's going to be a point where I'm either going to install a winch in the bed or drop to a 2" bar and use my reducer sleeve - if I can find it.
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07-24-2016, 05:55 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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Speaking about hitch stuff - this whole rig is my first ever. So I didn't know anything going in to it. I also ordered 1000# bars - even though the manufacturer suggested 1400# bars.
The AS user manual is fuzzy at best (tongue can't be over 1000 or in any case more than the TV receiver specs...). So I assumed it would have to be under 1000# and besides, I read a lot in the forums about heavy bars beating the tar out of the trailer. So I went with the 1000#ers.
Had trouble moving enough weight to the steer axle until I had the 1400# bars installed - though, there were apparently many installation problems with my hitch (from original dealer) that Colonial ultimately corrected so that may have been the root cause...
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07-24-2016, 06:55 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Or......
.....what axle ratings?
Bob
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07-24-2016, 12:19 PM
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New Member
1970 25' Caravanner
Jacksonville
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2015
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Good and Fun idea
I like this idea, I prefer to learn from others' mistakes than to learn the hard way-hubby, not so much, LOL.
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07-24-2016, 12:23 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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At my company, it's referred to as learning from the school of hard knocks, on someone else's tuition. 😀
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07-24-2016, 12:27 PM
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Tom T
Vintage Kin Owner
Vintage Kin Owner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 1,023
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveSueMac
DW has a great phrase: "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should."
Extreme example for dramatic effect included in the pic.
I though we could have a topic on learnings from experience about ideas that seemed good at the time but in retrospect- not so much.
Attachment 267602
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One of the car magazines I used to get had a monthly pic like this on the back page(s) of loading oddities. I think it was Motor Trend or Autoweek, but not sure.
Cheers!
Tom
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Orange CA
1960 Avion T20, #2 made, Hensley Cub, TV tbd- looking for 08-22 Cayenne S, EH, etc
1988 VW Vanagon Westfalia CamperGL (Orig Owner) + 1970 Eriba Puck
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07-24-2016, 12:32 PM
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Tom T
Vintage Kin Owner
Vintage Kin Owner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 1,023
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS
.....what axle ratings?
Bob
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Bob,
That's more a perfect example of why you should check your lug nuts/bolts torque every so often or so many miles - on both TV+Trailer & cars/trucks/SUVs.
He's just driving along not towing/towed, as the wheel rolls away.
Cheers!
Tom
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Orange CA
1960 Avion T20, #2 made, Hensley Cub, TV tbd- looking for 08-22 Cayenne S, EH, etc
1988 VW Vanagon Westfalia CamperGL (Orig Owner) + 1970 Eriba Puck
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07-24-2016, 12:36 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 30' Classic
Anna Maria
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,644
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerrie
I like this idea, I prefer to learn from others' mistakes than to learn the hard way-hubby, not so much, LOL.
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Where is the fun in simply copying or mimicking some other guys hard earned lessons ?
The real fun is in stumbling along until you get that Eureka moment.
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07-24-2016, 12:40 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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I think the axle is still there, coming out though. Not sure how this relates to axle rating, he's all that's in there. My buddy had a '57 Chev that liked to do that until he found enough money to get it fixed.
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07-24-2016, 04:03 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1998 34' Limited
Lawrenceville
, Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 220
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Hi SteveSueMac,
What kind of truck do you have?
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07-24-2016, 04:16 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 30' Classic
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
Meadow Vista
, California
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 159
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2 1/2 inch receivers.
OK, so whats the problem with the sleeve? I have a chevy with a 2 1/2 inch receiver and have not had any issues.....
Thanks
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07-24-2016, 04:33 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1975 31' Sovereign
Palomar Mountain
, California
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 355
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Yeah - he didn't compensate for the eight of the outboard motor on the back - needs to shove it to port about a foot - that should level it out and make it safer going around curves!
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07-24-2016, 04:34 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
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, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fwjumper
Hi SteveSueMac,
What kind of truck do you have?
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Chevy 2500 Silverado diesel LTZ.
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07-24-2016, 04:34 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverSinbad
OK, so whats the problem with the sleeve? I have a chevy with a 2 1/2 inch receiver and have not had any issues.....
Thanks
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See? You've already learned from my mistake. The value of this thread just rose exponentially. 😀
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07-24-2016, 05:41 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2014 16' Sport
Walnut Creek
, California
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 49
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Just because you can
Are you serious? A 2 1/2 hitch weighs a "Ton". That's #2000 lbs. extra right off the bat. Could be your problem. To much weight.
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07-24-2016, 05:54 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
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, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elbo
Are you serious? A 2 1/2 hitch weighs a "Ton". That's #2000 lbs. extra right off the bat. Could be your problem. To much weight.
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Well, too much weight has been a problem for me, but let's keep to towing and other camping stuff here ... 😀
No, I'm not serious. The 2.5" drawbar weighs 55# I'm told by the manufacturer.
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07-24-2016, 06:59 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2014 16' Sport
Walnut Creek
, California
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 49
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Just because you can
I am so sorry, but you are the one who said your 2.500 hitch weights a "Ton" and I was taught in school a "Ton" is #2000 lbs.
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07-24-2016, 07:57 PM
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Retired.
Currently Looking...
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Join Date: Jun 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveSueMac
Well, too much weight has been a problem for me, but let's keep to towing and other camping stuff here ... 😀
No, I'm not serious. The 2.5" drawbar weighs 55# I'm told by the manufacturer.
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Plus the weight of the ball mount and ball. Maybe another 15-20 pounds or so. 70-75 pound total. Not something I'd like to pick up and carry around a lot.
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07-24-2016, 09:49 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Just because you can...
It's been said that do 25 reps a day for a few months, and it's no issue picking it up😀😀😀😀
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