Is this the tow vehicle?

[rmkrum]

Two things, as a male, you never talk about with any female: 1) weight, and 2) age.

The really dangerous question is anything related to pregnancy because that borders on #1 above.

[ROBERTSUNRUS]

Originally Posted by rmkrum

And since when is the average American driver and passenger only 150 pounds??

Hi, I was in about 1964. But you can add close to one pound per year since then.

[Hey, when I say it that way, it doesn't sound too bad] "I only gained one pound per year!"

[bono]

Very nice towing combo!

By the way, Edge in Europe has 2,000 kg (4,400 lbs) towing capacity. Page 19

https://www.mediaab.ford.com/content...he%20Daten.pdf

Funny how manufacturers are playing with "towing capacity" on different markets.

Originally Posted by tfp1953

Saw this set up a few weeks back.......I believe that is a 28 footer and that is the tow vehicle. I kid you not!!!!!!!!! It is a Ford Edge,max towing is 3500 lbs.

[uncle_bob]

Originally Posted by rmkrum

And since when is the average American driver and passenger only 150 pounds??

Hi

I've had *dogs* in the truck that weighed over 150 pounds ....

I also have run into outfits that seem to think that the people in the vehicle average out at 125 pounds .... yikes .... I guess I really am a "multiple personality" after all.

Bob

[journeydog]

Originally Posted by uncle_bob

Hi

I've had *dogs* in the truck that weighed over 150 pounds ....

I also have run into outfits that seem to think that the people in the vehicle average out at 125 pounds .... yikes .... I guess I really am a "multiple personality" after all.

Bob

Yaaa...but that average weight number only includes those folks over 3 yo.

[Wazbro]

Originally Posted by bono

Very nice towing combo!

By the way, Edge in Europe has 2,000 kg (4,400 lbs) towing capacity. Page 19

https://www.mediaab.ford.com/content...he%20Daten.pdf

Funny how manufacturers are playing with "towing capacity" on different markets.

In Europe the recommended tongue weight is 5-7 percent.
In some (maybe all) countries they have a lower max speed for towing also.

[bono]

And your point is...? You can tow with 5-7% TW in the US. Physics works the same here and there. However, most people do not understand how towing works, so in the US they are recommending at least 10% TW in order to let speeders to tow 80 mph in Texas.

In most EU countries, the speed limit is 50 mph when towing, unless the trailer has electric brakes - then the limit is increased to 65 mph (I am not sure, if this works in all the EU).

The fact is that in Europe in majority of the case the trailers use surge brakes and no weight distribution. Despite these limitations, there are many examples where the same car is "rated" to tow more in Europe than in the US, where the larger trailers use electric brakes and weight distribution.

Originally Posted by Wazbro

In Europe the recommended tongue weight is 5-7 percent.
In some (maybe all) countries they have a lower max speed for towing also.

[Gsmblue]

On our way home we are overnighting at the same RV park, and the big brother turned up! So no more bullying!

[jcl]

Originally Posted by bono

Despite these limitations, there are many examples where the same car is "rated" to tow more in Europe than in the US, where the larger trailers use electric brakes and weight distribution.

My favourite example came from reading the owner's manual for my daughter's new Toyota. The same model was sold in Canada, the US, and Europe. The manual had three sub sections under the heading "Towing". In the section labelled Canada, there was a tow rating. In the section labelled US, there was a note that the vehicle could not tow anything, as it was not designed for towing. In the section labelled Europe, there was a higher tow rating than in Canada, and a drawing showing the place to attach a tow hitch, with reinforced attachment points on the chassis. The vehicles were identical in all three markets, apart from some smaller engine options available in Europe; they were all built in the same factory. It just came down to regional marketing differences by the manufacturer.

[Wazbro]

Originally Posted by bono

And your point is...? You can tow with 5-7% TW in the US. Physics works the same here and there. However, most people do not understand how towing works, so in the US they are recommending at least 10% TW in order to let speeders to tow 80 mph in Texas.

In most EU countries, the speed limit is 50 mph when towing, unless the trailer has electric brakes - then the limit is increased to 65 mph (I am not sure, if this works in all the EU).

The fact is that in Europe in majority of the case the trailers use surge brakes and no weight distribution. Despite these limitations, there are many examples where the same car is "rated" to tow more in Europe than in the US, where the larger trailers use electric brakes and weight distribution.

My point is that if the limiting factor is tongue weight then with a limit of 200 lbs tongue weight with 5% tongue weight that would allow a 4000 lb trailer, with 10% tongue weight 200 lbs would only allow a 2000 lb trailer.

[PKI]

If you look in the initial picture, you can see the worn grass where the tow vehicle that won't fit in front of the AS parks. But for those with less investigative skills, the actual pictorial evidence is an easier sell. Pat