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Old 07-19-2023, 08:40 AM   #1
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Question How many old guys to move the 23FB by hand

The driveway has 5 degree slope. The 23FBT is at an angle with the road side high so I can't fully drain any of the tanks. I don't have enough room in front to comfortably use the F150 super crew. I'd like to move it backwards about 4 feet, put some planking (6" high) under the "right" side and then winch it onto the planks using a large palm tree as the end point.


So - how many old guys will it take pushing on the hitch to move it backwards?
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Old 07-19-2023, 09:05 AM   #2
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I don't have enough room in front to comfortably use the F150 super crew.
Sooooo - how did it get there to begin with?

And make sure you have at least one young person there so they can post it on TikTok.

Seriously, be careful. Remember that tongue weight is probably 600+ lbs. As an old guy with a bad back I would not be volunteering.
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Old 07-19-2023, 09:19 AM   #3
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My suggestion. Invest in a trailer dolly. Dont hurt yourself or the trailer.
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Old 07-19-2023, 09:31 AM   #4
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Maybe put a front hitch on the 150 Super Cab? Much safer than fooling around by hand. Will be useful in the long run.
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Old 07-19-2023, 09:46 AM   #5
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Move it off your driveway the same way you got it up there…Tow to the nearest dump station…You know what to do next.

Hopefully you were just trying to drain the potable water on the driveway? Where would the rest go?

You will not overcome a 6” elevation ramp with a tow dolly. Tow truck, maybe.

Winch strapped to palm tree will pull tree down before trailer moves. Notoriously shallow roots.

Good luck, whatever you do!
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Old 07-19-2023, 10:59 AM   #6
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If you indeed have a 5° side slope on your driveway, simple trig will tell you you need to raise the low side of the trailer approx 8.4” to get it level (sideways).
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Old 07-19-2023, 11:15 AM   #7
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"How many old guys" does not tell us how old. Each year I get less strong, so that matters. Old guys wear out at different rates. This is a difficult math question.

You also have to determine how many old guys you have available? Since you are in Florida, I suppose you have an unlimited supply.

Old guys with big stomachs could be used as counterweights before the palm tree comes down. But then the question is how many old guys to remove palm tree and get trailer out of neighbor's yard, garage or house?

Perhaps selling it to someone with a really big helicopter would be a solution. Or asking the old ladies what to do.

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Old 07-20-2023, 06:12 AM   #8
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I'd need five 1 1/2" boards - not four as I estimated. The neighbor late yesterday volunteered that if I rebuild his parking pad shelter that was heavily damaged by Hurricane Ian I can leave the 23FBT there. Will give a 26' x 10 1/2' by 11 high space - plenty of room. None of the current neighbors have a fork lift so that's out anyway.


Thanks for the comments. I'll just let my idea fade into history.
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How many old guys does it take to rent a Bobcat with a trailer hitch attachment?
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Back when I was a not-so-old guy running projects, we used to consider "downside risks". In other words, how much will this cost us when it all goes sideways. It seems you've taken this literally.
Looking at your photo, it appears the slope is from side to side. That reduces the runaway risk, but does not make it any easier for the old guys to push it up the leveling blocks. My parking situation is similar to yours, and with practice, I get it into place with my truck. The key is having a spotter (shrill wife) to avoid going off the side of my ramp.
I have used a dolly, but for those, traction is everything. Even a slight rise would make my single wheel dolly spin uselessly and skid off in a wrong direction.
Other threads have mentioned the use of a ball attached to a heavy garden tractor. Do you have access to one?
The storage area sounds appealing, but I am curious as to what would have happened to a trailer sitting inside when Ian came through. Not that Florida will ever see a storm like that again... Hmmm. Downside risk.
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Old 07-23-2023, 10:46 AM   #11
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Just came to me—a front hitch for the truck. They are far more maneuverable than a rear hitch. I don't know just how your trailer is parked, but maybe that would work. They used to cost a few hundred bucks, probably more today.
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Just came to me—a front hitch for the truck. They are far more maneuverable than a rear hitch. I don't know just how your trailer is parked, but maybe that would work. They used to cost a few hundred bucks, probably more today.
You’re a little late to the party, Gene. Look at post #4.
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How About Using a Jack

Eight inches is high, but maybe jack up the low side of the trailer.
I must be missing something:
1) How did you get the trailer in its current position?
2) How will you move the trailer in the future? Or, is it in its permanent home?
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Old 07-26-2023, 03:13 PM   #14
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Don’t risk the injury or trailer damage. 6000+ pound trailer and several hundred pound tongue weight. Don’t mess around. Rent a truck or bobcat/tractor to move it. Or talk to a local tow company or even a nice neighbor with a truck about helping out.
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How many old guys to move a 6000# trailer by hand? ...... I'm thinking we will never know cause they're to smart to do that.

I use a ParkIt 360, Transformer to move my classic. They are battery powered. I've been using one or other of them for ten years on gravel, dirt, and concrete. They are sensitive to proper rigging, tongue weight, side slope, and climbing over curbs. A good operator can over come most problems. Average operators post complaints on social media. ��

Your situation ? .... I don't know and I won't offer a solution. But I think ramps, and softening angles is good. Hand moving that much weight is for young and dumb guys.

Ps...I thought about a hand hitch dolly with a tow bridle to a winch mounted in the RV port. My powered dolly works better on my various trailers.
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The driveway has 5 degree slope. The 23FBT is at an angle with the road side high so I can't fully drain any of the tanks. I don't have enough room in front to comfortably use the F150 super crew. I'd like to move it backwards about 4 feet, put some planking (6" high) under the "right" side and then winch it onto the planks using a large palm tree as the end point.


So - how many old guys will it take pushing on the hitch to move it backwards?
Too many! Use an electric dolly attached to the front of you trailer. Much safer and they have a brake ability to make it even safer.
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Don’t risk the injury or trailer damage. 6000+ pound trailer and several hundred pound tongue weight. Don’t mess around. Rent a truck or bobcat/tractor to move it. Or talk to a local tow company or even a nice neighbor with a truck about helping out.
The tongue weight is more likely 600+ lbs., not just several hundred. I agree with you.
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The neighbor volunteered that we could park it in the driveway of his extra garage. That worked even better since the roofers started replacing the garage roof - thanks Ian.
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You’re a little late to the party, Gene. Look at post #4.
Duh! It was such a good idea it was worth repeating.

Do you build "genes" or build robots named "Gene"? Why don't you build "Jean" robots or "jeans"?
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