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Old 04-24-2013, 05:11 PM   #81
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But this "discussion" has been done innumerable times already the past few years in other threads. It is trolling as the subject of "liability" would have been better appended to one of those others if some new information was pertaining.
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Old 04-24-2013, 06:35 PM   #82
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I am thinking that if Costco has done this that the other National chains can't be far behind. I had had those LT265's installed at Sam's Club several years ago.
Well, Sam's is at it now, too. I ran into this the last time I got new tires.


ridiculous. corporate lawyers run amok...but they're doing their job, trying to do whatever to avoid lawsuits. Because, you know...you could be sued. For anything, by anyone.
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Speaking of trolling, I was going to comment about the article in the Winnipeg Free Press on the Burbot, but now I don't dare.
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I think I'm finally coming around to the idea of letting Can-Am set up a TV for us since I'm sick of the 15mpg I get with my '06 Explorer.

My question is what do you think about towing a '63 Globetrotter with a 2013 Escape 2.0l Ecoboost and 6-speed automatic? It would have 17" rims with fairly low profile tires and (I suppose) the class II tow package as starters.

The globetrotter is currently being refurbished and will probably weight a little more than when it left the factory (~3200 lbs vs 2990 lbs). Most of our towing from here out will be with 2 adults and a dog since our daughters aren't going to be at home much longer.

We probably won't tow more than 4,000 miles a year with it.

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Transmission failed at 17,000 miles, and numerous other issues. I have a Honda odyssey at over 200,000 miles and a Honda crv close to 200,000 and both of these cars COMBINED spent far less time in the shop for repairs than my Ford Escape this past year. I like and have owned Ford trucks but never wil buy a Ford car again, going back to Honda.

Complete strangers will come up to me in a parking lot and ask if I have issues with the Ford Escape, they all want to tell me about their problems with their own Ford Escapes. It's a club you don't want to be a part of!
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So if you can support the opinion of an expert FOR towing with a Honda Odyssey, Why can't you hear arguments AGAINST?
Bring one! from an expert. The only ones (from lawyers) posted so far are from individuals who are obviously completely ignorant of the subjects of automobiles, towing dynamics, and the laws of physics. (weight distribution only helps you stop? really?? vehicles meant to tow have a special fan?? sheesh, my factory tow package equipped truck don't gut no special fan. I got ripped off!)
Granted, the question, as posed to the lawyers, was really loaded. It implies no due diligence performed at all on the said 3500lb rated vehicle. Might as well have just asked, "can I just drop a 8000lb bounder on the bumper-ball of my 92 Mazda Protege and drive off?"
Can I put 15lbs of crap in a 10lb bag? goodness, no!
But that isn't at all what is being discussed here, or on any other related threads.
A little bit of what they said is of value: yes, you could be liable. You could also be liable for spitting on the sidewalk, if the guy coming along behind you has a slip-fall accident.
Most importantly is what the second guy said: the plaintiff would have to prove that this was the cause of the injury, which would be extremely difficult to do, mostly because of the extreme unlikeliness of it actually happening.
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A quick trip to the scales reminded me of how heavy these trailers can get and the impact upon "max capacity payload" - we all have to look at the numbers and make our own decisions - unfortunately, the car manufactures have multiple numbers and ratings (btw - don't forget the stock tires can decrease your max gvwr)...

Yes - I'm now throwing in "tires" to the mix...

The joys of towing...
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Walmart has not mounted trailer tires for years for some liability reason I don't understand.
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Walmart has not mounted trailer tires for years for some liability reason I don't understand.
Workmens Comp more likely - back injuries, crush injuries, etc.

Much of what I learned about propane safety I picked up from Hank Hill.

Get a bunch of insurance adjusters talking at their Christmas party and the tales of poorly trained tire and auto service accidents, propane refilling mishaps, etc. and you'll be afraid to go near a shop. And then they start talking about tree cutters - YUCK, blood and gore and horrific stories about wood chippers and arms and legs.

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"Generally, lawyers bill upwards of $250/hr"

I don't know where you work, but I pay than double that rate for a partner's opinion. Your boss is a bargain.
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Workmens Comp more likely - back injuries, crush injuries, etc.

Much of what I learned about propane safety I picked up from Hank Hill.

Get a bunch of insurance adjusters talking at their Christmas party and the tales of poorly trained tire and auto service accidents, propane refilling mishaps, etc. and you'll be afraid to go near a shop. And then they start talking about tree cutters - YUCK, blood and gore and horrific stories about wood chippers and arms and legs.

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Now they make you turn off the refrigerator when dropping off for service-
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Towing with a small TV is kind of like gay marriage; if you oppose it, then don't do it.
Bravo! Absolutely the best zinger I have ever read in these towing threads! Pithy, and yet loaded with profundity~
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Bravo! Absolutely the best zinger I have ever read in these towing threads! Pithy, and yet loaded with profundity~
Oh I missed that. Good isn't it?
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So good, I wonder if he has some racial slurs to go along with it.

I hope the moderators can clean this up.
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