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09-01-2017, 05:37 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 19' Safari SE
Seal Beach
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Ha! Thanks, Bob! When I started to "build" an F-350, I was reminded that it's a $300+ option, and the truck bed step & assist is close to another $400(!). So there is little advantage to trying to keep the length to 8', since I would need to pay for camera and step anyway. I'll explore wired camera setups and probably buy Alaskan's version of a scissor-step. Anyone have suggestions for a wired camera and/or step access into a truck camper! Stealth camping seems less stealthy with a scissor stair deployed from the back door!
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Jerry & Susan
2007 19' Bambi SE; 2018 Ford F-350 5.4L SuperCrew 4x4
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09-02-2017, 08:21 AM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,684
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ESCAPE POD
Ha! Thanks, Bob! When I started to "build" an F-350, I was reminded that it's a $300+ option, and the truck bed step & assist is close to another $400(!). So there is little advantage to trying to keep the length to 8', since I would need to pay for camera and step anyway. I'll explore wired camera setups and probably buy Alaskan's version of a scissor-step. Anyone have suggestions for a wired camera and/or step access into a truck camper! Stealth camping seems less stealthy with a scissor stair deployed from the back door!
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I would not pay 20 cents for the Ford version of the steps that store in the tailgate..... They might work for children.
Bob
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09-02-2017, 07:14 PM
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Rivet Master
2018 27' International
Southeastern MI
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uncle_bob
Hi
I would not pay 20 cents for the Ford version of the steps that store in the tailgate..... They might work for children.
Bob
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"Hold my hand while I climb up into my truck bed". Said no man ever.
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09-03-2017, 02:07 PM
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Rivet Master
Lakes Region
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 815
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uncle_bob
Hi
I would not pay 20 cents for the Ford version of the steps that store in the tailgate..... They might work for children.
Bob
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Why might they only work for children?
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09-03-2017, 06:23 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 19' Safari SE
Seal Beach
, California
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Countryboy59
"Hold my hand while I climb up into my truck bed". Said no man ever.
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Well, when you're over 65, you might change your...perspective.
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Jerry & Susan
2007 19' Bambi SE; 2018 Ford F-350 5.4L SuperCrew 4x4
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09-04-2017, 06:58 AM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ESCAPE POD
Well, when you're over 65, you might change your...perspective.
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Over 65 check
Over 300 lb check
Over 6' 3" check
Steps that pop out of the Ford tailgate .... not so much. They are *mighty* flimsy.
Bob
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09-05-2017, 04:01 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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"Young'un, you climb up in the truck bed and hand the stuff down to me..." will be the next step. [emoji3]
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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10-29-2017, 12:55 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 19' Safari SE
Seal Beach
, California
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 220
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Ready to pull the trigger
OK, after a lot of obsessing about interior features and comparing cost, weight and dimensions, we chose the Four Wheel Camper, Grandby model. Here's the link:
http://www.fourwh.com/product/grandb...er-8-foot-bed/
We liked the north/south bed, lower weight and secondary bed/dinette if stealth camping is called for. The Alaskan came in second in these categories, along with being about $10K more in cost. The Alaskan is a beautiful concept, just not for us at this stage.
PAYLOAD AND TOWING:
The 350 is a 2018 (factory build) 4x4 Supercab, 8' bed, SRW, 6.2L gas, with camper, off-road and towing packages. The wheel base is 164", which should yield a payload of around 4500 lbs. Towing capacity is WAY more than needed: 19K#!
The FWC weighs 1097 lbs dry, and with 260 lbs in optional equipment, fluids, etc, the wet weight will probably be in the neighborhood of 1700#.
I know this is more truck than I need for my new combo, but I won't have to fret about overweight issues. Tailgate goes, but the FWC dealer has a 3rd party source for connecting a camera to the OEM harness, and placing the camera in the license plate frame. The perspective isn't optimal, but I'll be happy with the rear view anyway.
Again, thanks for your thoughts and encouragement. See you on the road!
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Jerry & Susan
2007 19' Bambi SE; 2018 Ford F-350 5.4L SuperCrew 4x4
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10-30-2017, 01:57 PM
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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I hadn't seen those before. Look nice.
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10-31-2017, 08:08 AM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,684
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Hi
Popups are terrific for eliminating the "high profile" part of a camper. That's a really big deal out where wind just blows and blows. I would do a bit of digging on any of them to see how the "fabric" holds up. Not all of them are created equal. Some do fine for a really long time. Others have rain blowing in after a few years.
Bob
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10-31-2017, 04:58 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 19' Safari SE
Seal Beach
, California
Join Date: Nov 2006
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FWC uses fabric like that found in Zodiac outboard boats. I think it is robust enough for the job.
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Jerry & Susan
2007 19' Bambi SE; 2018 Ford F-350 5.4L SuperCrew 4x4
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11-01-2017, 06:43 PM
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#32
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ESCAPE POD
FWC uses fabric like that found in Zodiac outboard boats. I think it is robust enough for the job.
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Well, I was just looking at a Zodiac earlier today. The stuff they use is often not the "best of the best". A lot depends on exactly which Zodiac and what fabric. Also issues like the gluing process and strain relief matter a lot. Even with good fabric, it can degrade fairly fast when exposed to UV.
Lots of variables ....
Bob
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11-02-2017, 09:28 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 19' Safari SE
Seal Beach
, California
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 220
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Bob, your concerns about the fabric are common to ALL pop up campers (except the Alaskan). That said, FWC seems to enjoy a solid reputation for performance in this category, with several reviews by full-timing users who have traveled extensively. Premature fabric failure doesn't appear to be a subject of complaint.
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