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09-26-2018, 12:54 PM
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Rivet Master
Kensington
, Maryland
Join Date: Jan 2016
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Chains for anti-theft
I've been reading here some good thoughts and methods to "slow down" thieves who would try to hitch a trailer and drive off.
Would it make sense to buy a 6' length of Pewag chain 1/2" and say an ABUS 37RK/80 than thread that thru the outside spokes of my (two axle) trailers wheels and call it good?
Both the chain and lock are about as good as it gets, both store away compact and I can do this without crawling in the mud.
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09-28-2018, 12:22 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Waco
, Texas
Join Date: May 2017
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Yes indeed. I noticed you utilized the word "slow down" and that's about all you really can do for theft protection. And it will probably make a quick thief move on.
During my first trip with my Airstream, I had chained the wheels of my Airstream at a KOA where I was staying 5 days, and had peace of mind for only exactly one half day. Because later that day, A neighbor in a motorhome walked over and smiled at my chains, and said a brand new 32' Jayco was stolen after the wheel chains where cut by acetylene torch; and the coupler lock knocked off with a sledge. I think determined thief's can steal just about any trailer they want.
It's the quick thief your really preventing or slowing down. I no longer chain my wheels, but i do use the Precision Coupler lock which is custom made for Airstream, and also remove the tow safety chains so they must bring their own chains to steal my Airsteam.
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09-28-2018, 12:39 PM
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Rivet Master
2018 27' Globetrotter
Apollo Beach
, Florida
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I think a big mean-looking dog on the end of that chain would be an even better deterrent!
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09-29-2018, 04:47 AM
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Rivet Master
Kensington
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Thanks. I hear what everone advises. This puts me firmly in the reasonable precautions camp....and good insurance.
Is this the coupler lock I need? >> Model 2516-AS
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Originally Posted by Martee
Yes indeed. I noticed you utilized the word "slow down" and that's about all you really can do for theft protection. And it will probably make a quick thief move on.
During my first trip with my Airstream, I had chained the wheels of my Airstream at a KOA where I was staying 5 days, and had peace of mind for only exactly one half day. Because later that day, A neighbor in a motorhome walked over and smiled at my chains, and said a brand new 32' Jayco was stolen after the wheel chains where cut by acetylene torch; and the coupler lock knocked off with a sledge. I think determined thief's can steal just about any trailer they want.
It's the quick thief your really preventing or slowing down. I no longer chain my wheels, but i do use the Precision Coupler lock which is custom made for Airstream, and also remove the tow safety chains so they must bring their own chains to steal my Airsteam.
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09-29-2018, 07:16 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Waco
, Texas
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 296
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Yes, that's the correct model number, and made only for Airstreams. This coupler lock prevents hitch ball access to the coupler and the closing handle. Also, the mechanical design prevents a sledge from directly hitting the recessed lock mechanism.
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09-29-2018, 11:54 AM
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Rivet Master
Kensington
, Maryland
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 554
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Martee
Yes, that's the correct model number, and made only for Airstreams. This coupler lock prevents hitch ball access to the coupler and the closing handle. Also, the mechanical design prevents a sledge from directly hitting the recessed lock mechanism.
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Add me to the list. I've got one inbound. Seems like a very well thought out way to slow down a thief. Once I get it I'll post some pics showing how to secure the safety chains...the videos are not that helpful.
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09-29-2018, 12:27 PM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,744
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Martee
Yes, that's the correct model number, and made only for Airstreams. This coupler lock prevents hitch ball access to the coupler and the closing handle. Also, the mechanical design prevents a sledge from directly hitting the recessed lock mechanism.
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Hi
..... does nothing to stop them towing on the chains and working on the gizmo a half mile down the road....
The thief is most likely after what's in the trailer. That's what he / she can sell quickly and turn into a fresh supply of drugs (yes, that's what motivates most of these people). Simply getting it to someplace where they can strip it out is the objective. Putting fancy locks on a trailer kind of says "steal me, I'm full of expensive stuff ..."
There are no perfect solutions.
Bob
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09-29-2018, 01:05 PM
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Rivet Master
2022 20' Basecamp
1968 17' Caravel
Los Osos
, California
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 613
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The Brahma Trailer Wheel Lock.....a real "slow down".
https://www.ebay.com/itm/302134062874
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09-29-2018, 01:11 PM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
, Ne
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Put this sign on your door when you leave.
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09-29-2018, 01:29 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 27' FB International
El Dorado Hills
, California
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 2,023
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If the thief mostly wants what's in the trailer then why dont they just pop the trailer door open with a crowbar?
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09-29-2018, 02:09 PM
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Rivet Master
Kensington
, Maryland
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 554
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kscherzi
If the thief mostly wants what's in the trailer then why dont they just pop the trailer door open with a crowbar?
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I just threw up a little. Please stop.
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09-29-2018, 02:34 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Waco
, Texas
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 296
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uncle_bob
Hi
..... does nothing to stop them towing on the chains and working on the gizmo a half mile down the road....
The thief is most likely after what's in the trailer. That's what he / she can sell quickly and turn into a fresh supply of drugs (yes, that's what motivates most of these people). Simply getting it to someplace where they can strip it out is the objective. Putting fancy locks on a trailer kind of says "steal me, I'm full of expensive stuff ..."
There are no perfect solutions.
Bob
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Well I certainly don't think any thief looks at a trailer lock as an invitation to steal. The majority of Airstream owners are very aware that determined thieves will defeat most obstacles in their way and steal your trailer. But doing nothing at all, is not the way to protect your property.
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09-29-2018, 02:54 PM
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
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I building a lock housing out of AR500 steel. Bulb using Abrasive Resist steel and very tight tolerances I am building a better mouse trap. I’ve got to order a piece of 3”ID AR500 pipe for the puck lock guard and cut a few more parts and it will be ready to weld up. I think I’m going to have the whole thing hot dipped galvanized vs powder coating. Also going to use a Mul T Lock MP5+ puck lock.
Be aware that the Proven Industries puck lock is made out of aluminum not a steel body.
Also going to set up safety chains so that they can be removed and stored as discussed in the 23D thread.
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09-29-2018, 04:34 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2018 23' Flying Cloud
Dungville next to Donkeytown
, Alabama
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 165
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Chains for anti-theft
Just got my Proven Industry Precision Lock. They have the option for a SS puck, add another $75 to the price. This should make it even harder to melt down than the Aluminum. Problem is that I can’t store the chain inside, like they can do with the non AS version. It’s not deep enough.
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09-29-2018, 05:33 PM
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joannadannna
Just got my Proven Industry Precision Lock. They have the option for a SS puck, add another $75 to the price. This should make it even harder to melt down than the Aluminum. Problem is that I can’t store the chain inside, like they can do with the non AS version. It’s not deep enough.
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Scott on the 23D thread came up with a great solution to the safety chain problem, add a second hook to the other end and remove them while parked.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f142/the-23d-thread-166085-173.html#post2161679
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09-29-2018, 05:42 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2018 23' Flying Cloud
Dungville next to Donkeytown
, Alabama
Join Date: Aug 2017
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Thanks GMFL - I assumed that it would house the chain ends too. I suppose since it’s specific to the AS that they needed to make it shallower than the other model. I’ll replace the ends with hooks as mentioned. Thank you. [emoji4]
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09-30-2018, 07:35 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Waco
, Texas
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 296
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I use these bow shackles to attach and/or remove my tow chains on the Airstream when parked at a site. The 1/2" D Ring bow Shackle is nearly unbreakable, and has 12 Tons (26,455 lbs) breaking strength.
The last chain link on the trailer is cut, and replaced with the removable shackle. Takes just two minutes to unbolt the shackle and remove both tow safety chains. The shackle is actually 2 times stronger than the chain link it replaces.
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09-30-2018, 08:39 PM
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2015
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Here’s mine with the two hooks fast and easy.
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09-30-2018, 08:49 PM
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Rivet Master
2022 25' Flying Cloud
NCR
, Ontario
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 3,108
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this what we use
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09-30-2018, 09:18 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Waco
, Texas
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 296
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I guess the best thing you can do, to protect your Airstream trailer against theft, is to apply multiple types of protection. Hopefully not all at the same time. [emoji4][emoji4]
1. Coupler handle lock
2. Coupler ball lock
3. Remove tow chains
4. Chain and padlock wheels
5. Wheel clamp system
6. GPS Tracker
7. Mean Dog !!
Can anything be added to the list?
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