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08-31-2014, 02:13 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2012 25' FB Flying Cloud
albany
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Join Date: May 2014
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Best TV for MPG with 20 footer Airstream ?
Posted a question yesterday, elsewhere but only one answer so far.....
So can you beat or come close against the Mercedes ML350 BLUETEC DIESEL pulling a 19 or 20 foot Airstream newer model at 24 MPG.
Cheers for now, let the fun begin.
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08-31-2014, 03:10 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
St. Catharines
, South Western Ontario
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Yes.... apparently the Jetta turbo diesel will do better than the Mercedes BT. Forum member Andrew T. was using one at their dealership Can AM, and did a write up all about it.
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08-31-2014, 04:04 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 28' Flying Cloud
Brandenburg
, Kentucky
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 898
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Might want to look at the new Dodge half-ton diesel pickup. Reports of getting very close to 30 MPH with no load, so I would think that pulling that small of an AS would not cause a big hit to the MPH.
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08-31-2014, 04:09 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Impossible to answer such a question as no one alive or dead has driven every possible combination. All you will get is very biased opinions. Le the arguments begin.
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08-31-2014, 04:12 PM
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Full Time Adventurer
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic
, USA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,748
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If high MPG makes you feel good, great. But don't confuse MPG with overall actual savings.
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02-05-2015, 03:22 AM
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New Member
2007 16' Bambi
Vancouver
, Washington
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 1
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Best MPG I've achieved with my 2013 ml350 bluetec 6cyl pulling my 19ft airstream is 18.
I normally get around 30 without the trailer.
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02-05-2015, 03:49 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1987 34' Excella
Asheboro
, North Carolina
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 94
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I dont believe you can do better than rhart above states. All around all things considered thats where you should be. Not what I tow with, but I have different goals and that is a great combo. You will be amazed how capable the MB is. FYI. CanAm set mine up also.
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02-05-2015, 04:51 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BoldAdventure
If high MPG makes you feel good, great. But don't confuse MPG with overall actual savings.
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TV=Safety, reliability, ability, comfort, looks, cost, and....... what was the question?
Disclaimer.....
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02-05-2015, 08:05 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1987 25' Sovereign
Oregon
, Ohio
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 491
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BoldAdventure
If high MPG makes you feel good, great. But don't confuse MPG with overall actual savings.
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For me this is the best of all the posts here. Two years ago I bought a 2005 F250 V10 2wd with 38,000 miles on it for $10,000 on Craig's list. By my figuring I saved $30,000 to $45,000 instead of buying new, including the afor mentioned Mercedes. At $3.00 per gallon for gas the savings will buy 10,000 to 15,000 gallons of gas, or 100,000 to 150,000 miles of towing at 10 MPG. All this said, I may average 5,000 miles per year towing for 20 to 25 years of towing making me 84 to 89 years old. I understand that some of you out there will pick this all apart with your own way of thinking and that is OK. I try to use the KISS principle, Keep it short & simple, as much as possible.
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02-05-2015, 08:52 AM
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Rivet Master
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2012
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Maybe a 2015 F150 2.7L Ecoboost or 5.0 would be a good compromise. Then you have room put extras like reclining chairs, BBQ, bikes etc which would be harder with a SUV.
Kelvin
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02-05-2015, 06:20 PM
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jmpgino
Posted a question yesterday, elsewhere but only one answer so far.....
So can you beat or come close against the Mercedes ML350 BLUETEC DIESEL pulling a 19 or 20 foot Airstream newer model at 24 MPG.
Cheers for now, let the fun begin.
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The question is narrow, not broad as to cost: a specific trailer, and what TV would provide the lowest fuel burn.
Has nothing to do purchase price of either vehicle, the TV model year, how much either is used, or other costs of ownership and operation.
The OP should specify travel speed, to be fair, and a general range of climate plus terrain.
The winner is going to be a turbo-diesel sedan.
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02-05-2015, 07:13 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
2019 27' Tommy Bahama
London
, Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,347
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We have been using Jetta and Golf Diesels since 2006. We put 90,000 miles on the 2006 with most of that towing. We replaced it with a 2010 which has 40% more horsepower. Actually more horsepower and torque than the 6.2 Litre GM diesel V8's that we used in the 80's.
Today I would suggest the Passat. Even though it is a larger car than the Jetta it is just as fuel efficient as well as being very smooth and quiet. These usually run 23-26 MPG towing an Airstream. The best part is the 45 MPG they run when not towing, if you want you can drive it like you stole it and it still delivers 40 MPG.
Andrew T
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02-05-2015, 08:51 PM
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Rivet Master
1969 25' Tradewind
Shasta Lake
, California
Join Date: Sep 2012
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On a smaller scale we pull or 17' Casita (3250#) with our Chevy Metro It gets 55 mpg Hwy and 30 mpg towing
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02-05-2015, 09:26 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
ottawa (greely)
, Ontario
Join Date: Feb 2012
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We get about 18 mpg ( imperial) or 16 liters per 100kilometers, with our full size chev pick up 4x4 extend a cab with a v8 engine (5.3 liter) at 55 mph .
Don
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02-05-2015, 09:30 PM
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Rivet Master
1969 25' Tradewind
Shasta Lake
, California
Join Date: Sep 2012
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Now if anyone believes the Metro/Casita post, I have a bridge in New York for sale Andrew T are you interested ?
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02-05-2015, 10:13 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
ottawa (greely)
, Ontario
Join Date: Feb 2012
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I had a 3 cylinder metro and I towed a 500 lbs utility trailer with a fireplace cord of wood in it and it was a short trip maybe 2 miles and I remember riding the clutch just to get going on a flat road . And was a treat to stop with no trailer brakes from 30 mph . So I don't know how they towed a casita weighing 3200 lbs with more trailer area wind surface then my utility trailer to highway speeds,must of been fun!
Don
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02-06-2015, 05:26 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
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02-07-2015, 04:26 AM
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4 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
ottawa (greely)
, Ontario
Join Date: Feb 2012
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Hope I wasn't offensive as that was not my intention ,sorry if it sounded that way! By the way Robert love that North american flag.
Don
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2012 silverado ext cab 4x4 ,5.3 L , 6 speed trans,3:42 final drive,tow package standard box 6 1/2 foot . 2014 honda forza 300 scooter, #2 2015 honda crf 250 L (Dual sport)
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02-07-2015, 05:06 AM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
, Ne
Join Date: Dec 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenritas
Now if anyone believes the Metro/Casita post, I have a bridge in New York for sale Andrew T are you interested ?
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02-07-2015, 09:21 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scamp
Hope I wasn't offensive as that was not my intention ,sorry if it sounded that way! By the way Robert love that North american flag.
Don
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Don,
No problem on this end.
I have a soft spot....I can see the GWN from my kitchen window......
We be pretty close....
Bob
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