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Old 01-01-2022, 11:01 AM   #1
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Airstream Aerodynamics Put to the Test

Airstream Aerodynamics Put to the Test

https://www.airstream.com/blog/airst...t-to-the-test/
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Old 01-01-2022, 11:12 AM   #2
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Wow, talk about a biased test! Airstream boasts that their trailer has 25% less aerodynamic drag than an SOB that is 25% larger!!! One would certainly expect less drag with a loaf of bread vs. a brick, but this test is ridiculous.
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Old 01-01-2022, 12:10 PM   #3
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The faster you tow an Airstream or any other Travel Trailer, they become less efficient.

Aircraft are not designed using the Airstream shape as an example. Your tow vehicle as well. Howard Hughes and the Spruce Goose... is a starting point. A 'flying boat'... and towing an Aluminum boat, of sorts. One floats. The other not so well.

Electric Vehicles are not advised for towing. You will be stopping so often, your vacation will be spent at Charging Stations. My neighbor with his Tesla and Free Charging... understands.

If you bought an Airstream to save the World... you didn't. Had you continued to tent camped, you saved more energy and gasoline.

Many new buyers are concerned about the environment. That is good. Saying the Airstream is on the cutting edge of being towed with an EV... well, if it were smaller. Sixteen foot Bambi's are a good Airstream to save the environment. An EV vehicle could probably handle it... too.

Lithium Batteries also do not save Energy. To resource the contents, produce and recharge them... lots of hidden environmental production issues. They do not advertise that... for good reason.

E=MC2... a nuclear powered vehicle? Figure the cost to put that together. Ask the Iranians.

Great feel good advertisement. I knew I was not saving the planet buying an Airstream. Or a home. Or a tow vehicle... or feeding ourselves... or.... on and on. There is a cost for the environment just stepping outside our homes and inhaling the air, as mixed as it can. We exhale CO2 and the Plants use it and O2 is their waste product.

That Can of Corn... work on that alone. Build a Tin Can Trailer?

Saving the environment Winter Camping in Minnesota? As long as you do not heat your Airstream and not expect to digest frozen water and food without discomfort.

Want to conserve energy? Get the largest tow vehicle that will tow your length of trailer. Too small a tow vehicle uses more energy. Shorter Airstream, smaller tow vehicle. Even rocket development required larger engines, more of them to get into Space. You will if you want any Airstream over 16 feet.

I sure enjoy our Airstream. Had I been concerned about the Environment, Energy Use, Tow Vehicle exhaust, Road construction, Bridges, Tires, Aluminum... I would step into my Cave, not have a campfire in the Winter and make my tools from Flint and Ground Stone.

There is a cost for anything we do. The Geological Record has a list of Extinctions that would fill a Library... but that is Nature. Once we consume everything... something else will take our place. That may take millions of years... but it will happen.

Maybe I am an optimist. Paleontology is scary if you just look at the illustrations. I am an example... bad timing for me.

**** This has not been edited nor proofread by a Human Bean.****
That is why it may be accurate. Just saying....
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Old 01-01-2022, 12:15 PM   #4
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The faster you tow an Airstream or any other Travel Trailer, they become less efficient.

Aircraft are not designed using the Airstream shape as an example. Your tow vehicle as well. Howard Hughes and the Spruce Goose... is a starting point. A 'flying boat'.

Electric Vehicles are not advised for towing. You will be stopping so often, you vacation will be at Charging Stations. My neighbor with his Tesla and Free Charging... understands.

If you bought an Airstream to save the World... you didn't. Had you continued to tent camped, you saved more energy and gasoline.

Many new buyers are concerned about the environment. That is good. Saying the Airstream is on the cutting edge of being towed with an EV... well, if it were smaller. Bambi's are a good place to save the environment.

Lithium Batteries also do not save Energy. To produce and recharge them... have a lot of hidden environmental production issues.

E=MC2... a nuclear powered vehicle? Figure the cost to put that together. Ask the Iranians.

Great feel good advertisement. I knew I was not saving the planet buying an Airstream. Or a home. Or a tow vehicle... or feeding ourselves... or.... on and on. There is a cost for the environment just stepping outside our homes and inhaling the air. We exhale CO2 and the Plants use it and O2 is their waste product.

I sure enjoy our Airstream. Had I been concerned about the Environment, Energy Use, Tow Vehicle exhaust, Road construction, Bridges, Tires, Aluminum... I would step into my Cave, not have a campfire in the Winter and make my tools from Flint and Ground Stone.

There is a cost for anything we do. The Geological Record has a list of Extinctions that would fill a Library... but that is Nature. Once we consume everything... something else will take our place. That may take millions of years... but it will happen.

Do what you want to do in life and stop seeking validation or acceptance from others is a good way to succeed in life and not make poor choices. Each persons needs and ability is different. Electric vehicles are no more of a solution to something than solar power. It's just a different method. Each has their own pro and con.
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Old 01-01-2022, 01:55 PM   #5
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Facts? I have one magic bean seed to sell... or more

The Rivet advertisement is very well done.

It compared a 28RB foot Airstream with a 35 foot SOB.

In Wyoming we use common cents... that is not a good comparison. I have a nickel's worth of sense. Not copper but clad zinc and plated with copper.

Why not a 25 foot Arctic Fox or an OLIVER trailer for comparison.

Lets go to Cheyenne Frontier Days and race a horse. The first race I ride and win. I weigh 170 pounds at six feet.

Lets race the same horse and lose the next race. The rider weighs 290 pounds at six feet. This is not a fair comparison, but if we are at the Bar... maybe it makes sense. If it is a brawl... I am laying low.
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I think the size difference isn't as relevant as people are worried about. From an aerodynamic viewpoint I would think the front Cross section of the trailer has more to do with aerodynamics then the length.
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Old 01-01-2022, 02:19 PM   #7
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I have a Bed Time Story...

I have maybe 8,000 Casino Craps Table Dice in my collection. They are perfect cubes with white pips. One, two, three, four, five and six pips on a cube. The white material used in these Pips... has the same density as the highly polished Red acetate. (Acetate today, but older dice used Nitrate... but that is not the Bed Time Story.

Yes.. some Casinos may use Green, Blue, Yellow.... color makes no difference. NONE use solid white as you cannot see into them...

Players that lose at a Casino at the Craps Table... say the DICE ARE BIASED AND CROOKED. That is WHY they lost. I say it was from their Wagering, their strategy, playing with the House or against? Etc....etc.

Biased Dice would be CROOKED DICE. Rigged, cheating, illegal for sure.

Obviously the Casino uses 'perfect cubes' and not Biased. The losers do not believe that. OK... The Bed Time Story.

"IF the Dice are Biased causing you to lose? Why don't you PLAY THE BIAS AND WIN?"

ZZZZZZZzzzz. Loser's think everyone is naive or ignorant.

Show me a Biased Die or more... get an Attorney and make a million dollars in a law suit. I am still waiting to read it in the newspaper. Even if they were biased, it cannot even be detected or affect the outcome of two dice. The Stickman offers up five dice... you pick two. They all look the same.

If the Pit Boss checks a carton of new dice and one is not to the Casino's standards... they return all. I have yet to hear that Bed Time Story of Biased Dice... it would ruin the company selling them.

The ONLY BIASED DICE I own... have been drilled on a particular face (often the SIX Pip), added lead weight to make them Biased. They are WHITE with Pips drilled and black ink. That is why modern dice you can see through. These are used in 'friendly craps games' on the street corner.


Question everything silently... and you will not get... asked to leave. But, step up and catch the curve balls as strikes... or balls. Everyone has an opinion like an umpire behind the plate. Make too many bad calls, and you are out of a job.

It does not mean they are correct. Proof takes more than one comment.
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