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03-31-2021, 11:08 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1988 29' Excella
Lorena
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2017
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70s and 80s tow vehicles
These days I see a lot of debate about which monster truck is best to pull my
Airstream. But what about "back in the day"? What did you (or your parents or grandparents) use back in the 70s and 80s?
Please no criticisms (unless you are criticizing yourself). We know that most of you would never consider towing with THAT today...
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03-31-2021, 11:12 AM
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diesel maniac
Airstream - Other
Tucson
, AZ
Join Date: May 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lemley
These days I see a lot of debate about which monster truck is best to pull my
Airstream. But what about "back in the day"? What did you (or your parents or grandparents) use back in the 70s and 80s?
Please no criticisms (unless you are criticizing yourself). We know that most of you would never consider towing with THAT today...
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My Dad towed with a Pontiac Catalina with a 389 and a two row radiator! I remember that because sometimes it would overheat on the grades in California. I don't know what the transmission was but it may have been some version of the 2 speed Powerglide.
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03-31-2021, 12:23 PM
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1960 22' Safari
in the wilderness
, The great Mojave Desert
Join Date: Jun 2006
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In the 80's it was a big block 454 in a suburban.
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03-31-2021, 12:31 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
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03-31-2021, 01:57 PM
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Ready-to-Travel
2012 30' International
Walkerton
, Virginia
Join Date: Dec 2003
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My dad towed with a 79 Bonneville that he ordered beefed up for towing. Don't know engine size but he used a wd hitch and had airbags. Later he towed with a 3/4 ton conversion van.
I recall once he missed the turn into Sherando Lake here in VA and made a left turn, thinking he could turn around. Nope. That road runs straight up to the Blue Ridge Parkway near Wintergreen. He says at one point he had his grandsons get out and walk beside the rig to lighten the load. Engine racing, he said he made it up at walking speed.
Pat
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04-01-2021, 06:42 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 20' Flying Cloud
Williamson County
, Texas
Join Date: Apr 2017
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Pretty much station wagons and light pickup trucks for everything from 1950's through the 1980's. One of the best was my dad's 1969 427 Caprice with air shocks. In all cases it was always no quick maneuvers at speed, and speeds were pretty much limited to 45-55 mph max. Scary to think about was tying into the tow vehicles hydraulic system for brakes.
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04-01-2021, 06:51 AM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Evergreen
, Colorado
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Those were different times for sure. I remember family vacations in the 1970s in our VW van. If we headed west into the mountains, the van hardly had enough power to get up the hill! My father would have the accelerator on the floor in second gear (3-speed on the floor) and we could almost hit 40 mph!
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Past:
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04-01-2021, 07:18 AM
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Rivet Master
2004 28' Classic
Monument
, Colorado
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In the late 50s/early 60s, my dad pulled our 20 something foot Airstream with a big old Buick station wagon (loaded with five kids). Not sure what the engine size was, but I remember him driving up to the top of Trail Ridge Rd with the AS in tow. Unbelievable! But he did have WD bars on it.
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2004 Airstream Classic 28 "Willard"
2023 Ram 3500 4x4
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04-01-2021, 07:27 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SYC2Vette
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. . . Scary to think about was tying into the tow vehicles hydraulic system for brakes.
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I think some of the old Airstreams had vacuum-assisted brakes, which needed a line piped from the TV engine block. I helped a friend look at a used AS back in the 90's which had such a system.
"Vacuum brakes" info here on AF:
https://www.google.com/search?q=vacu...=airforums.com
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04-01-2021, 08:07 AM
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Site Team
1994 25' Excella
Waukesha
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Sep 2020
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I just bought a 1999 Suburban 2500 with a 454 V8. When looking at the specs, it was surprising to me just how similar it is to the 1974 Pontiac Grand Safari station wagon I learned to drive in. The engine in that was a 455 V8 and it had a curb weight which was very close. Not sure about the suspension, but it was available with a 'heavy trailer' package and I'm sure that it could pull quite a few Airstream models without a problem.
If you're looking for something along these lines, the Oldsmobile Vista Cruiser was on the same platform and just as robust.
It seems that they shaved a foot off the length of these in 1977, so one older than that would be high on my shopping list.
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04-01-2021, 08:28 AM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
2019 27' Tommy Bahama
London
, Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2007
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Here are a few for you.
My Father's 1966 Chrysler Windsor with a 383 and a 30' 1965 Airstream.
His 1976 Pontiac Bonneville with a 455. 185 Horsepower.
The 1983 Caprice my father won the fuel economy contest in this is another trip where I am delivering and 34 Limited to Florida. This is in Smoke Mountain National Park on the Blue Ridge.
My 1987 Olds 88 3.8 Litre V6 165 horsepower, not far off the 455 from 20 years earlier with half the cubic inches. This picture is at the top[ of Independence Pass in Colorado 12,000'.
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04-01-2021, 08:37 AM
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2 Rivet Member
Oak Harbor
, wa
Join Date: Mar 2015
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My parents bought a brand new 1962 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup with a 292 "big six". It did just fine pulling through the Cascades in Oregon and Washington.
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04-01-2021, 09:06 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Reminder of an older thread full of great photos:
Quote:
Originally Posted by OTRA15
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FWIW
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04-01-2021, 09:12 AM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,744
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Hi
Chevy wagon with a *lot* of stuff in it. Needless to say, the wear and tear on the vehicle was pretty significant.
The biggest recollection from back then was the "when will we get there?" side of not really going very fast. Speeds today are much higher (at least in the east) than typical tow speeds back in the late 50's early 60's.
Bob
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04-01-2021, 10:23 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2021 22' Caravel
SEATTLE
, WA
Join Date: Oct 2020
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My Dad towed our trailer all over the western US with a 1972 Galaxie 500 Station Wagon. It had a 7.0 liter V8.
I'm trying to master backing up with our AS and was just thinking about him the other day.
Every time we'd get home from a trip, he'd back this crazy long station wagon attached to our trailer up over the curb, across our lawn (which involved swerving around a big tree), through the narrow space between our house and the fence and into the back yard ... this was all in reverse!
They were made of different stuff back then : )
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04-01-2021, 12:38 PM
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:SPACE A" S/O 11 Air19745
2006 34' Classic S/O
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Starting in 1970 I towed our 23' Streamline with a AMC Ambassador Station Wagon. It had a 343 CID engine and tall gears. In 1974 I he'd to trade it in for a used International Travel all. The AMC's tranny was shot.
guskmg
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04-01-2021, 05:35 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' International
Rogers
, Arkansas
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 751
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My dad had a 1976 Old Cutlass station wagon. It had a 454 but no idea of the transmission or rear end. That was right before the gas crisis and fuel was still under $.50 a gallon. The speed limit was pre 55 mph, so much higher. He was consistently going 75 on the highway pulling the trailer or not.
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04-01-2021, 06:25 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2007 23' Safari SE
La Selva Beach
, California
Join Date: Jun 2014
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70's and 80's tow vehicles
My grandparents towed their SOB trailer through the 60's with a Lincoln Continental (with the suicide doors). Did route 66 East and back through Canada. I have pictures somewhere, now I have to dig them out!
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04-01-2021, 06:26 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
2019 27' Tommy Bahama
London
, Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,347
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Hi Mike The Cutlass would have had a 455, 454’s were only used in chev’s. The 455 was a much better engine but gm kept the 454 not the 455. It would have a had 2.73:1 gears, if it had the tow package it would have had 3.23:1.
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04-01-2021, 06:30 PM
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diesel maniac
Airstream - Other
Tucson
, AZ
Join Date: May 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew T
Hi Mike The Cutlass would have had a 455, 454’s were only used in chev’s. The 455 was a much better engine but gm kept the 454 not the 455. It would have a had 2.73:1 gears, if it had the tow package it would have had 3.23:1.
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and a TH 400 transmission
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