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12-07-2021, 11:50 PM
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#301
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Rivet Master
2017 20' Flying Cloud
Williamson County
, Texas
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 813
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TitusNW
Info for DogMomDeb post #290. We rec'd our 2021 F-150, XLT, 3.5 EB, Super Crew, 6.5' bed, 4x4 in October. Wanted the goodies of the Lariat but went for the payload... 2421#
Truck drives nice. 11.9-12.1 mpg (a smidge better than expected) with a 25' FC FBT.
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Excellent information, and impressive payload. Still waiting for payload info from anyone with the powerboost option (not calculated but the actual door sticker photo).
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12-08-2021, 03:22 AM
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#302
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3 Rivet Member
2024 20' Basecamp
Lake Norman
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 141
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TitusNW
Info for DogMomDeb post #290. We rec'd our 2021 F-150, XLT, 3.5 EB, Super Crew, 6.5' bed, 4x4 in October. Wanted the goodies of the Lariat but went for the payload... 2421#
Truck drives nice. 11.9-12.1 mpg (a smidge better than expected) with a 25' FC FBT.
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Wow, that's a nice number on payload. Sounds like we ordered pretty much the same. We did get the hard folding cover which will take off some. And got sucked into the 2kw pro power option. Which will also take off some. But if we get near that number, it will be awesome.
Gas mileage not too bad.
Thanks for posting TitusNW!
Ours is scheduled for production this month. I'm a bit nervous driving something that big after getting used to a small car the past two years.
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01-05-2022, 06:31 PM
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#303
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New Member
Currently Looking...
Middleton
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Join Date: Jan 2022
Posts: 2
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2.4kw
I’m looking at buying a used F-150 Hybrid, the window sticker does not show a line item for the 7.2kw Propower. I haven’t seen the box of the truck in person to know for sure, but assume it’s only the 120v/20a (2.4kw) circuit. Is that a deal breaker for boondocking with a FC 27’FB with a 15,000 btu AC? I’ve learned that a soft start would be required, but beyond that? If you manage the power usage wisely?
Thanks in advance!
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01-06-2022, 07:24 AM
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#304
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1 Rivet Member
2021 19' Caravel
Castle Hayne
, NC
Join Date: Jul 2021
Posts: 10
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Ford Hybrid Powerboost
Badger,
A soft start may void out your RV warranty FYI. Check with your dealer. I have a 7.2kw on my Platinum and run a 19foot Airstream with little problem on the 30watt Airstream plug side which provides 3600 watts. However, I have to manage what I run when the AC is running such as making sure the AC air is turned off in the RV when I run the convention oven. I can view the power draw on the F150 and get a feel what appliances may trip the truck inverter. My work around is simple is to use the 12 volt plug for an electric skillet or other items we need. There are other technical workarounds to embrace the total available 7.2kw, however, our needs are quite simple with a small RV and I have had enough technical software issues with dealers with the Hybrid Powerboost that I choose not to make changes at this time.
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01-06-2022, 07:39 AM
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#305
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1 Rivet Member
2021 19' Caravel
Castle Hayne
, NC
Join Date: Jul 2021
Posts: 10
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2.4kw
Badger,
In my opinion, the 7.2KW is the only way to go and anything less is a deal breaker. If you like to travel, boondock etc., the 7.2KW was the least I would accept and we don't regret the requirement.
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01-06-2022, 09:02 AM
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#306
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Rivet Master
2017 28' Flying Cloud
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Georgetown (winter)Thayne (summer)
, Texas & Wyoming
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 6,668
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn Hoskin
Badger,
A soft start may void out your RV warranty FYI. Check with your dealer. I have a 7.2kw on my Platinum and run a 19foot Airstream with little problem on the 30watt Airstream plug side which provides 3600 watts. However, I have to manage what I run when the AC is running such as making sure the AC air is turned off in the RV when I run the convention oven. I can view the power draw on the F150 and get a feel what appliances may trip the truck inverter. My work around is simple is to use the 12 volt plug for an electric skillet or other items we need. There are other technical workarounds to embrace the total available 7.2kw, however, our needs are quite simple with a small RV and I have had enough technical software issues with dealers with the Hybrid Powerboost that I choose not to make changes at this time.
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Softstart will not void your warranty; it will actually help extend the AC life, IMHO (and others also) I actually had mine installed by JC couple years back and they were in agreement as to the value of the softstart. The new AS's come with a similar softstart standard now, I have heard?
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01-06-2022, 09:12 AM
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#307
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Rivet Master
South East
, Michigan
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 551
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Some observations.
I've read hundreds of posts from folks who boondock using a single 2kw generator, Honda, Champion, etc. The 2.4kw from the truck will provide more power than those. Then there are those who require a pair of 2kw generators to be happy, that gives them ~4kw - a bit more than a 30 amp shore hookup.
It will depend on what your requirements are while you are camping. 2.4kw is likely enough to run a single 15,000 btu ac unit especially with an easy start. But you won't be able to run much of anything else (propane for water and fridge). Without the ac unit running, you'll be able to run most everything else.
If your idea of boondocking is to be able to live as if you are on 30 or 50 amp shore power, then you need the 7.2KW which really is much closer to being on 50 amp shore power (2 legs at 3600 watts each).
Also recognize that the more power you consume, the faster you will empty your gas tank.
YMMV
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2017 29' SOB, 2022 Platinum F-150 SCrew, ProPride
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01-06-2022, 09:13 AM
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#308
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Rivet Master
2023 28' International
Mercer County
, New Jersey
Join Date: Oct 2021
Posts: 726
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MicroAir actually addresses the warranty issue and offers to cover the compressor if the A/C manufacturer balks at a warranty claim.
https://www.microair.net/products/ea...arranty-2-year
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01-06-2022, 09:35 AM
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#309
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Rivet Master
2023 28' International
Mercer County
, New Jersey
Join Date: Oct 2021
Posts: 726
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gypsydad
The new AS's come with a similar softstart standard now, I have heard?
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I've seen this posted before too.
Can anyone with a recent trailer delivery confirm or deny this? Is it across all models? Or just Classics?
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01-06-2022, 11:28 AM
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#310
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New Member
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Middleton
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Join Date: Jan 2022
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Thanks for the great responses! I saw a post on the F150 forum from a guy with a Coleman trailer running a 15kbtu AC with the 2.4kw and had no problems, even ran other things too. I don’t think we would need to run a lot of different things as if we were on shore power, but if I were buying a new truck I would order it with the 7.2kw option. Hard to pass up a slightly used truck that is $11k under MSRP.
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01-07-2022, 09:41 AM
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#311
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Rivet Master
2017 28' Flying Cloud
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Georgetown (winter)Thayne (summer)
, Texas & Wyoming
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 6,668
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Badger29
Thanks for the great responses! I saw a post on the F150 forum from a guy with a Coleman trailer running a 15kbtu AC with the 2.4kw and had no problems, even ran other things too. I don’t think we would need to run a lot of different things as if we were on shore power, but if I were buying a new truck I would order it with the 7.2kw option. Hard to pass up a slightly used truck that is $11k under MSRP.
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there are several here who have this F150 Hybrid with great reports. Also, many of us have/use the Honda 2200 to run our 15000 AC's with the Easystarts and also run other electrical needs when we boondock without issue. Many also use a pair of Honda or Yamaha or Champion 2K series to run all the camp needs, including both AC's when boondocking. I personally, can get by with just one 45lb Honda and one AC for our needs, using propane for fuel. The F150 would be great if I go back down to a 25', but that ain't in the cards with the "currant" wife!
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01-24-2022, 05:34 PM
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#312
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3 Rivet Member
2024 20' Basecamp
Lake Norman
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 141
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We picked up our truck on Saturday.
2022 F-150 XLT, Supercrew, 3.5 EB, 301A, 6.5 bed, 4x4 with max tow package and heavy duty payload.
We added spray in bed liner, hard folding bed cover, 2 kw pro power.
Payload came in at 2406.
I was so worried about weight and payload that I didn't add steps. Should have added a step. It's really tall.
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01-24-2022, 05:45 PM
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#313
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3 Rivet Member
2005 25' Safari
Brooks
, Georgia
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 205
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I didn’t know you Could get pro power on a max payload truck. I wonder how much weight it was.
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01-25-2022, 08:50 AM
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#314
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Moderator
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DogMomDeb
We picked up our truck on Saturday.
2022 F-150 XLT, Supercrew, 3.5 EB, 301A, 6.5 bed, 4x4 with max tow package and heavy duty payload.
We added spray in bed liner, hard folding bed cover, 2 kw pro power.
Payload came in at 2406.
I was so worried about weight and payload that I didn't add steps. Should have added a step. It's really tall.
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The box-side steps can be added aftermarket, they're available as a bolt-on part. I suspect you could upgrade the tailgate if that's the step you mean, but that would cost a buck or 2. As an average-height middle-aged fat guy with 4WD I REALLY appreciate the steps (I have both kinds on mine.)
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Zero Gravitas — 2017 Flying Cloud 26U | WBCCI# 15566
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01-25-2022, 08:53 AM
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#315
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Rivet Master
2017 28' Flying Cloud
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Georgetown (winter)Thayne (summer)
, Texas & Wyoming
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 6,668
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DKB_SATX
The box-side steps can be added aftermarket, they're available as a bolt-on part. I suspect you could upgrade the tailgate if that's the step you mean, but that would cost a buck or 2. As an average-height middle-aged fat guy with 4WD I REALLY appreciate the steps (I have both kinds on mine.)
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Tailgate step on Ford is pretty nice...so is the GM multipurpose step!
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2017 F250 King Ranch, 4X4, 6.7L, Blue-Ox WDH
Summer-Star Valley Ranch RV Resort (Thayne, WY); Winter-Sun City (Georgetown,TX)
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01-25-2022, 02:46 PM
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#316
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Rivet Master
South East
, Michigan
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 551
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DKB_SATX
The box-side steps can be added aftermarket, they're available as a bolt-on part. I suspect you could upgrade the tailgate if that's the step you mean, but that would cost a buck or 2. As an average-height middle-aged fat guy with 4WD I REALLY appreciate the steps (I have both kinds on mine.)
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I had the side steps on a prior F150. Other than showing them off to a few folks. I never used them. Had a couple of occasions they self deployed. If the truck had recently been down a muddy road, they were hard to put back in their stored position (wouldn't lock up).
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Originally Posted by gypsydad
Tailgate step on Ford is pretty nice...so is the GM multipurpose step!
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I use my tailgate step a lot, very useful. I take the GM version to be over engineering. I've heard it's expensive.
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2017 29' SOB, 2022 Platinum F-150 SCrew, ProPride
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01-25-2022, 02:51 PM
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#317
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Rivet Master
2017 28' Flying Cloud
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Georgetown (winter)Thayne (summer)
, Texas & Wyoming
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 6,668
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SailorSam205
I had the side steps on a prior F150. Other than showing them off to a few folks. I never used them. Had a couple of occasions they self deployed. If the truck had recently been down a muddy road, they were hard to put back in their stored position (wouldn't lock up).
I use my tailgate step a lot, very useful. I take the GM version to be over engineering. I've heard it's expensive.
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I agree; I think the Ford implementation is simple and very easy to operate...unlike the Swiss Army knife GM! I can easily extend the grab bar and step, and even throw a kayak over my shoulder, grab the bar, and climb in without help. Can't do that with the GM; no grab bar! The bar is handy especially when shuffling stuff in/out at night; gives you something to steady yourself...least does for me. Both are a nice but prefer the Ford design; I'm not sure I could remember all the combinations of the GM!
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01-25-2022, 05:59 PM
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#318
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3 Rivet Member
2024 20' Basecamp
Lake Norman
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 141
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slimpockets
I didn’t know you Could get pro power on a max payload truck. I wonder how much weight it was.
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You can get the 2 kw but to get the 2.4 and 7 (something), you have to get the Powerboost. Looking at the Ford 2022 towing guide - with my configuration (GVWR 7850, 157.2 wheelbase 4x4 and heavy duty payload package) the max payload you could get is 2640. So with my additions (including the 2 kw pro power) I lost 234 lbs in available payload.
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01-25-2022, 06:02 PM
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#319
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3 Rivet Member
2024 20' Basecamp
Lake Norman
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 141
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DKB_SATX
The box-side steps can be added aftermarket, they're available as a bolt-on part. I suspect you could upgrade the tailgate if that's the step you mean, but that would cost a buck or 2. As an average-height middle-aged fat guy with 4WD I REALLY appreciate the steps (I have both kinds on mine.)
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I mean the side steps. The tailgate has a step.
I'm middle aged and will have to either lose weight or build up strength in my arms to drag my fat butt up into the seat.
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01-26-2022, 11:14 AM
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#320
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Moderator
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DogMomDeb
I mean the side steps. The tailgate has a step.
I'm middle aged and will have to either lose weight or build up strength in my arms to drag my fat butt up into the seat.
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"into the seat" you mean you're talking about running boards for stepping up into the cab? You have TONS of choices there, every aftermarket upfitter makes running boards they'll swear are better than you'd ever get from the factory anyway. Full-length, just steps, retractable things, etc.
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