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Old 10-29-2018, 07:10 PM   #1
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Hello everyone,
We are seriously considering a 28 International TB. Love the floorplan, but hesitating as our diesel TV max is 7716 (with 650 miles/tank).
Other TV option is a 2007 Tundra with what would be obviously horrendous gas mileage.
Do we need to scale down our AS hopes?
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Old 10-29-2018, 07:14 PM   #2
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No, but you need to pay attention to setup, and may need to reinforce the hitch. Read up on Can Am.
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Old 10-30-2018, 03:03 PM   #3
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IDK how much a 28 Int weighs but if you look at the RennList forum you can see people towing all sorts of goodness with the Cayenne.

I've been seriously considering a Cayenne S or GTS myself for towing and daily life.

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Old 10-30-2018, 03:17 PM   #4
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Blog of a dude rolling a 23' and 2017 Cayenne.
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Old 10-30-2018, 03:23 PM   #5
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The Cayenne is a seriously good tow vehicle. As has already been said, the hitch and weight distribution need to be properly set up to ensure you don't exceed rear axle weights. Your Cayenne is as close to the perfect tow vehicle for your 28 as you can get.

We have towed our 27FB many thousands of trouble free, comfortable miles.
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Old 10-30-2018, 04:46 PM   #6
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Your asking for a lot of "opinions" with that question.! There are a "few" folks here who seem to "feel" safe with sports SUV's pulling AS's on this thread, if you look around; many modified by Canadian firm Can/AM as suggested earlier in this post. And, depending on your type travel, you may be fine with going that route. Personally, not interested in "making" a sports SUV into a "tow vehicle" it was not designed for towing an 8k# trailer. You would be modifying hitch to support ~1000+ or so, tongue weight of your 28' AS. There are many choices out there in large SUV's or trucks that would give you much more capability without making modifications, and have many have built in features designed to pull larger trailers. In the end, it's up to you on how much you want to spend to "modify" that Porsche, and how safe it will be in the end while towing at 65+ mph with 7500-8000lbs behind you. I read lots of posts by happy folks who have gone that way. Good luck.
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Old 10-30-2018, 05:07 PM   #8
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Old 10-30-2018, 07:31 PM   #10
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I’m an American but I’ll side with the Canadians. Here on another forum people are debating the towing abilities of the Tundra [emoji51]Click image for larger version

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Old 10-30-2018, 08:19 PM   #11
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Hello everyone,

We are seriously considering a 28 International TB. Love the floorplan, but hesitating as our diesel TV max is 7716 (with 650 miles/tank).

Other TV option is a 2007 Tundra with what would be obviously horrendous gas mileage.

Do we need to scale down our AS hopes?

Sandy


Tundra, or more. I believe TV selection should be based on worse case scenarios. If one tows enough, the worst case scenario (or something very close to it) will occur.
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Old 10-30-2018, 09:27 PM   #12
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Old 10-30-2018, 09:29 PM   #13
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Tundra, or more. I believe TV selection should be based on worse case scenarios. If one tows enough, the worst case scenario (or something very close to it) will occur.


Hi Sandy,
IMO, I believe that your Porsche can tow better that a Tundra, but rather than listening to my opinion or those of other well meaning people who tow travel trailers, ask somebody who has actual understanding of the of the physics of center of gravity, forces applied to the receiving hitch, maneuverability, and real world testing of towing rigs. Andy Thompson at Can Am in London Ontario as well as the rest of his staff can give you useful information for you to decide how to proceed. Good luck and best wishes for your travels!

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Old 10-30-2018, 10:01 PM   #14
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Just me. It not sure I’d want to tow with a Porsche.

That said sounds like you got some solid advice, I’d give a call to the outfitter mentioned above because all the rest of us are speculating
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Old 10-30-2018, 10:09 PM   #15
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Hi,

I two our 27FB with a diesel F250 and I love the experience and I have been towing across Canada and down the west coast through many mountains and tonight I have ended up in Arizona (as my wife flew home last week).

I have posted on many threads how I think this combination is great for many reasons. I won't bore you with the details now.

This post is about Can Am and Andy. We bought our GT from them this October. They are a great dealer. Our experience has been fantastic with the purchase and with the service afterwards prior to our trip.

Andy is a true gentlemen and very knowledgeable. That being said I never brought up their propensity for towing with small vehicles because I wasn't interested in that route. I bought my 250 specifically to tow our new trailer. We traded in an F150 gasser for the bigger diesel.

If you desire to tow with smaller vehicles as others have said Can Am would be a great place to start. They do seem to know a lot about small vehicle towing. They are good people and a great dealership from our experience.
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Old 10-31-2018, 02:12 AM   #17
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Actually it’s right out of a comedy skit. “Guy walks up to a bunch of pickup truck owners and asks if he can tow with a small car”.
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Old 10-31-2018, 04:14 AM   #18
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I’ve been towing my 28’ International with my 2008 Tundra for 5 years now. I have been over the Rockies twice & south to Florida with the exact set up that you are asking about.
Assuming you have the 5.7L engine, you will average 10mpg and will have no problem towing up an grades in the 6- 8% range. Down hill, you will have to take your time and use the thumb shifter to save your brakes. The only downfall will be your payload. I have a family of four & visit the CAT scales often. I am barely within axle ratings and would be happier with 2000lbs of payload. Not the 1325lbs listed on my “B” Pillar
Having said that, I currently have 159,000 trouble free miles and will never find a more reliable truck. I do not want a 3/4 ton truck and may lean towards the GMC Max Tow with the 6.2L for my next TV.
Good luck with your decision, and safe travels!
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Old 10-31-2018, 05:54 AM   #19
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I need my Cayenne to pull the Cruiser 1954. Here in Europe a trailer weight of up to 3,5 tons is valid for the Cayenne = 7716.179 lbs.
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Old 10-31-2018, 09:23 AM   #20
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Allessandra,



CanAm has gone to 30' AS with CayTDI - see "Hitch Hints" article starting on pg. 6 -



http://rvlifemag.dgtlpub.com/?i=2546



Go to this thread to read & ask questions, if you want feedback from other Cay owners:


http://www.airforums.com/forums/f463...rs-134917.html



You'll get all sorts of scary stories from the big truck only types on here (& not just on Halloween), but they do very well when the total rig is properly set up with WD, Anti-sway, trailer brakes/controller, & trailer is properly loaded for hitch wt. & trailer wt., as well as TV net useful load (GVWR - curb wt. - passenger(s) wt(s). - cargo wt. - hitch wt.) & max. wt. & max. axle wt. - as are any TV.



One comment above is true - the Porsche parts & labor for maintenance will be higher than a Toyota, but then you're already familiar with the care & feeding of a Porsche, since own the Cayenne.


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