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05-11-2015, 09:16 PM
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New Member
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Oakland
, California
Join Date: May 2015
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1974 31' Sovereign & 2006 Toyota FJ?
We have a 2006 Toyota FJ Cruiser rated with a towing capacity of 5,000 and have our eyes on a 1974 31' Sovereign that has the following stats:
WEIGHT: 4975
HITCH WEIGHT: 650
Would we be ill advised to tow this trailer with this vehicle?
Thank you in advance!
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05-11-2015, 09:33 PM
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Keen amature
1975 20' Argosy 20
Chestfield
, Kent
Join Date: Mar 2014
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Welcome to the forum.
You may want to check this thread to start, because I am sure many of the same opinions will be repeated to answer your question.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f463...er-127072.html
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05-11-2015, 09:36 PM
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New Member
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Oakland
, California
Join Date: May 2015
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Thank you! I'll start reading now. : )
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05-12-2015, 04:20 AM
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Rivet Monster
1975 31' Sovereign
1980 31' Excella II
Sprung Leak
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 7,172
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No
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05-12-2015, 05:22 AM
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Rivet Master
1973 27' Overlander
Portsmouth
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2012
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Sorry, but no, you are already over when you consider passengers, fuel, cargo, etc adds to the total weight. I would look for a vehicle with a rating of around 7000 lbs or higher to tow that trailer. I think that is being prudent given the manufacturers tow ratings for the truck. I'd also look for a longer wheelbase vehicle, that will add to stability as well.
Of course there are some folks that will tell you that you can tow it with a minivan, but I'm not one of em.
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05-12-2015, 06:38 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2007
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I have an '07 FJ Cruiser and tow a 17' Casita with it (3500#'s), but would not tow anything bigger.
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05-12-2015, 10:56 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 Interstate Ext. Coach
Sedona
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,084
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I used to pull my 2012 19' Flying Cloud behind my FJ Cruiser. With the short wheelbase and long-travel suspension it was initially a nightmare. But after multiple attempts to adjust the load balancing and sway-control hitch, it was eventually pretty good.
However, the mileage (9-10mpg at no more than 65mph) together with the relatively small gas tank meant I was filling up perhaps 5 times in one day. And on many occasions the warning light was on! That alone made me realize the FJ was not a good tow vehicle.
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05-12-2015, 11:22 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1972 27' Overlander
Penokee
, Kansas
Join Date: Oct 2011
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we have pulled our 27 foot Overlander a few times with our FJ,, all less than 100 miles in flat country,..
Dont do it.. Too short of a wheelbase, and a little short on power.. Like everyone said, your 5900lb, trailer will become up around 7000lbs. once you fill it up with propane, water, gear,, and food. Ours fully loaded is pushing 8000.. ( got rid of all the cast iron cooking gear)..
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05-12-2015, 11:39 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1971 31' Sovereign
pickering
, Ontario
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 22
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FJ Toyota
Not a match; the Toyota is way under specs to pull that much weight; its not even a truck; you would need a 3/4 ton truck, like a 2500 series GMC or Ford with big v8; or diesel 6.2l; you must allow extra power and physical size to be able to climb large grades;
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05-12-2015, 12:22 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1977 31' Sovereign
Lynnwood
, Washington
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 311
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This may look OK on paper, but it's definitely not a good match.
Too much trailer. Not enough truck. In this case, the tail will definitely wag the dog. Very dangerous combination.
Tom
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05-12-2015, 12:41 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 31' Sovereign
1963 26' Overlander
1989 34' Excella
Johnsburg
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2005
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NO NO NO The tail will definitely wag the dog on this one. You also lack braking capacity.
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05-12-2015, 02:03 PM
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#12
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New Member
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Oakland
, California
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 3
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Thank you all for your feedback, it is appreciated! When we're ready to purchase a more powerful vehicle, we will start looking at larger trailers once more. : )
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05-12-2015, 02:59 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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No. The FJ isn't wired for the 7-way RV trailer plug and electric brake actuator and doesn't have the transmission cooler. Keep the FJ because it is cool and they don't make them any more. Go get a Tundra to pull that trailer or the larger trailer you may purchase. The Tundra already has the at least 9,000# towing capacity, transmission cooler, RV trailer plug, and plug 'n' play pre-wire for the trailer brake controller.
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05-12-2015, 03:23 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2010 20' Flying Cloud
Hailey
, Idaho
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 414
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Franz
Before you get all enthused and interpret all the "no's" in the various replies as encouragement...they all actually meant "yes" if your question was read correctly. To wit: Would we be ill advised to tow this trailer with this vehicle? So what we all actually meant was YES!
jon
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