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Old 05-09-2003, 07:06 PM   #1
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25' Safari vs. Classic 25'

Can anyone tell me the difference between the 25 foot Classic and the 25 foot Safari? They seem to weigh about the same, but it looks as though there are bigger windows in the Classic. Thanks
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Old 05-09-2003, 07:30 PM   #2
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The Safari is designed and marketed as a lighter weight version of the Classic. The website pdf lists the empty/gross weights of the Safari at 4,900/6,300 lbs and the Classic at 6.050/7,300 lbs.

Cabinets in the Safari are much lighter weight, and if memory serves, there are several items standard on the Classic that are optional on the Safari.

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The windows in the Classic have much more utility since they open up completely, where the Safari windows only have a small portion (lower) that opens.

If you plan on heavy use, the interior of the Classic will hold up better.

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The Classic is the "flagship" trailer.

The interior of the Classic is far more plush, but it costs more and is heavier.

I would compare it to a Buick vs. a Cadillac. The Buick is very nice, but the Caddy has all the luxo stuff and the higher end finishes, etc.

Bambi is the same as the Safari more or less, except in size of the unit.

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Any ideas about whether the safari will hold up as well as the classic in terms of wheels, axles, suspension, frame integrity, etc, if they are towed through 'difficult' terrain? (Like BLM lands, the Alaska highway, dirt roads, etc.)
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Dsfsri vs Classic

The current Safari uses the interior pioneered by the International AS. Cabinetry is 3/4" plywood with Wilsonart laminate. There are many fewer parts and joints than in the Classic and, for that reason, I would judge that the Safari interior would hold up much better in rough road usage.

Since the Safari is much lighter in weight, I would bet that therunning gear would hold up better, as well.
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Any ideas about whether the safari will hold up as well as the classic in terms of wheels, axles, suspension, frame integrity, etc, if they are towed through 'difficult' terrain? (Like BLM lands, the Alaska highway, dirt roads, etc.)
All of these components you listed above are of the same quality and in certain cases the same part number as those used on comperable model Classic line trailers. I researched this prior to purchasing my Safari.

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Jack -

That's GREAT info! Do you think it's true if you go back to 1999 or 2000 safaris?
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That's GREAT info! Do you think it's true if you go back to 1999 or 2000 safaris?
The first year of the current Safaris (99 I think) came with 14" tires & wheels on the 25' model, AS went back to 15" the following year.
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I don't know what the wheel size was in '99. But you can pretty much assume that the same quality is there for '99 and '00.

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99 safari wheel size

the wheel size for the 99 safari is 225/75/15. i thought id put my 2 cents in(i had to get out of bed grab a flashlite and walk a whole 10 feet to find that out. i might add since you asked and co incidentally the 99 safari i am in has been to calgary/alberta/banff columbia icefields/jasper alberta yukon/fairbankns/juneau and the alaskan hiway "end of the road homer alaska."it bears only very minor battlescars,mainly localized to the brush guards,having served their purpose,i have ordered a new set and im keeping the originals to re-visit these places in the future.i honestly can say although this trailer has been well used,it also has been well maintained or i would not have considered it for purchase. i cant think of anything that hasnt held up like new inside or outside the trailer.the previous two owners left it full of xtras (pre packed wheel bearings with new grease seals in sets of four) for the alaskan roadside,a rear tool/storage bumper mounted alum. diamond plate box overhangs the rear bumper for storage.this trailer is the 99 safari that has definately been thru the alaskan adventure test,no scars to the underbelly/everything works fine looks like new,the exception is a small clip that secures the folding table for traveling had been re-fitted. wayne wunder w.b.c.c.i. /v.a.c.#1859 62 globetrotter/99 safari
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Wayne -

Wow! More great stuff! This is exactly the kind of information we're looking for. We started off thinking we'd get a fifth wheel because we'd need the space. But more and more it seems clear that after a couple of years even the best fifth wheels start falling apart and looking terrible. So now it's only a matter of determining that perfect comprimise of space and agility, i.e. how big an Airstream can we get and still go wherever we want? How big an Airstream can we get and still tow it (safely), with an (as yet unpurchased), SUV? Or will we have to get a pickup truck to tow the Airstream we want? These will be the fun things to figure out.

But the more and more I read on this forum the more I know its got to be an Airstream! Yea!

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99 airstream safari/vs 5th wheel

you are so rite. i almost convinced a friend of the same mistake,purchasing a 5th wheel in 1987 before i knew better. ill e mail you the inside out layout of the trailer if you like and tell you of the deal i got on her at toscanos rv in los banos. to date i can slate it as one of the best things i have done in a while. i am so very happy with it. wayne wunder.
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So now it's only a matter of determining that perfect comprimise of space and agility, i.e. how big an Airstream can we get and still go wherever we want? How big an Airstream can we get and still tow it (safely), with an (as yet unpurchased), SUV?
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Check out the towing forum. We could start here but you probably will get a better flavor of the issues and vehicles by going there and then asking further questions if you have any.

http://www.airforums.com/forum...s=&forumid=238

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