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10-26-2006, 06:46 PM
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Rivet Master
1976 25' Caravanner
Vintage Kin Owner
Campton
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,113
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suicide door
I have a '76 Caravanner with a non-suicide door . I have yet to see another AS with this set up . Are there others that have non-suicide doors or was this a factory custom?
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10-26-2006, 06:54 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1991 34' Excella
Mansfield
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 490
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My 91 model came with a suicide door.
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10-26-2006, 07:22 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,801
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It's a new thing
the 25' Safari FB SE has a non-suicide door. Started because the door slammed into the strut that supports the awning.
Seems to be a popular thing now.
Paula Ford
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10-26-2006, 07:28 PM
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Rivet Master
1976 25' Caravanner
Vintage Kin Owner
Campton
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,113
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Foiled Again
the 25' Safari FB SE has a non-suicide door. Started because the door slammed into the strut that supports the awning.
Seems to be a popular thing now.
Paula Ford
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A suicide door hinges on the left (towards the back ) , a no-suicide door hinges on the right ( towards the front ). Which way is yours?
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10-26-2006, 07:35 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,280
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http://www.vintageairstream.com/archives/index.html has pictures of a '76 and '78 Caravanner -- both with suicide doors. Awning struts interfere with doors opening into them. Does your Caravanner have an awning. How about a picture? Would be interesting.
The 2005 25' FB Safari has a rear suicide door that interferes with the awning strut. I was not happy with the OEM latch mechanism I saw on one before Airstream switched to non-suicide door for the 2006 models and beyond.
Curiously, the 2006 20' Safari has a mid-body door well away from the awning struts. Airstream chose to place a suicide door on that model.
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10-26-2006, 07:46 PM
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Rivet Master
1976 25' Caravanner
Vintage Kin Owner
Campton
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,113
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Non-suicide door
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10-26-2006, 07:55 PM
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Rivet Master
1976 25' Caravanner
Vintage Kin Owner
Campton
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,113
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Canoe stream
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Yes it did interfear with the awning , I finally made a custom bracket to hold the door open at 90 deg.
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10-26-2006, 08:50 PM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 932
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My 1963 Bambi and my 1979 Excella Motorhome both have Non suicide doors.
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10-26-2006, 09:20 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Our '64 GlobeTrotter has a right-hand hinged (non-suicide) door. One of the main reasons we wanted a pole-style awning.
Shari
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10-27-2006, 12:56 AM
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Rivet Master
1975 Argosy 26
1963 24' Tradewind
Seattle
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,341
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what's the layout..
of your caravanner? Seems the midbody windows are mucho different from what I've seen. Probably the door was hung this way so as not to block the windows when open.. or shatter them.
A very unique unit I think. Is it 8 ft wide, or 7.5 ft?
Marc
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10-27-2006, 07:52 AM
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Rivet Master
1976 25' Caravanner
Vintage Kin Owner
Campton
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,113
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3M , yes it is 8 ft wide . I have seen pictures of other Caravanners , including a '76 , and the door opens against the windows ( hinged on the left ) . That is why I'm thinking this was a special order , but wanted to check with others.
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10-27-2006, 08:22 AM
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Rivet Master
1948 16' Wee Wind
1953 21' Flying Cloud
Denver
, Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,169
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General rule but always exceptions ...
Ticki2: As a general but not absolute rule, Airstream entry doors swing away from adjacent windows if windows are installed next to the door. For some periods, such as 1965-68, all doors were suicide whether or not there was an window just ahead of it. I imagine this change was made to accommodate the increasing popularity of permanently mounted awnings. Before that, doors tended to be non-suicide unless there was a window forward of it, in which case they would be suicide. And there have been some trailers over the years where the door swings against the adjacent window when it just as easily could have swung the other way - go figure?
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Denver, Colorado - WBCCI Unit 24
Airstream Life "Old Aluminum"
Airstream Life "From the Archives"
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10-27-2006, 08:40 AM
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Rivet Master
1976 25' Caravanner
Vintage Kin Owner
Campton
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,113
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47 Weewind , thaks for that backround information . From what I have seen all the units post '68 also have suicide doors except for some very new models . The "Go figure" is the stage I'm in right now.
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10-27-2006, 09:52 AM
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Rivet Master
1995 30' Limited
Ashland
, Missouri
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,610
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What's the origin of the term "suicide" door? Curious minds want to know, though facts will probably not be as interesting as my imagination on this one! ~G
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maxandgeorgia
1995 Airstream Classic Limited 30' ~ Gypsy
1978 Argosy Minuet, 6.0~Minnie/GPZWGN
Chev Silverado 2500HD Duramax/Allison, 4X4, Crew Cab
WBCCI #5013 AIR #2908
WDCU
Go, Mizzou...Tigers on the prowl!
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10-27-2006, 10:29 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,280
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Georgia -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_door -- anybody wanna alert Wikipedia to this list of suicide door vehicles?
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10-27-2006, 11:10 AM
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Rivet Master
1995 30' Limited
Ashland
, Missouri
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,610
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Thanks, Bob! More info than I dreamed I wanted to know Not as rich as my imagination, but interesting! ~G
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maxandgeorgia
1995 Airstream Classic Limited 30' ~ Gypsy
1978 Argosy Minuet, 6.0~Minnie/GPZWGN
Chev Silverado 2500HD Duramax/Allison, 4X4, Crew Cab
WBCCI #5013 AIR #2908
WDCU
Go, Mizzou...Tigers on the prowl!
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