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06-05-2008, 10:00 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
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fuel costs
In 1973, an Airstream poll asked "How much will you be willing to pay for fuel, before you would quit Airstreaming?"
The answer, 35 years ago, was $5.00 per gallon.
How much would you be willing to pay for fuel today, before you would quit towing your Airstream?
Andy
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06-05-2008, 10:08 AM
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More than one rivet loose
Currently Looking...
Los Alamos
, New Mexico
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In
In 1973, an Airstream poll asked "How much will you be willing to pay for fuel, before you would quit Airstreaming?"
The answer, 35 years ago, was $5.00 per gallon.
How much would you be willing to pay for fuel today, before you would quit towing your Airstream?
Andy
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Stop completely. I am not sure. Probably when I park the truck because it costs to much to use it. The airplane is coming close to that point.
The cost of fuel has seriously curtailed my travel plans.
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06-05-2008, 10:22 AM
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Rivet Master
1965 17' Caravel
1983 27' Excella
Walnut Grove/Laguna Woods
, California
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We will continue to use our Caravel until the first year our annual expenses overtake our annual income, and there is else to change or cut.
Don't know just when that will be, but certainly not $5.00 per gallon. We will continue to plan our trips very carefully, and always buy gas at the cheapest price.
If everyone only bought gas from the lowest price seller, the others would have to lower their price in order to sell. Then the lowest priced guy would have to lower his price in order to remain the lowest priced guy, etc,etc,etc, until gas was at the lowest price it could be sold for. That's called competition. Buying from the high priced guy eliminates the need to compete, and allows the price to continue upward. Now the low priced guy can raise his price, allowiing the high priced guy to raise his, etc,etc,etc.
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06-05-2008, 10:28 AM
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Always Airstreaming!
2005 22' Safari
1960 24' Tradewind
Anytown
, Connecticut
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,115
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Beat to Death
Boy is this subject getting beat to death! There are no less than four other threads pertaining to fuel costs on the forum already. How about when starting a new thread folks should do a search first.
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06-05-2008, 10:49 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2013 27' Flying Cloud
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Livingston
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 91
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I am trying to slow down my travel and make more stops along the way. Hoping to get a tank of gas to last a week or more, instead of filling up every day.
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06-05-2008, 12:17 PM
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The Painted Pig
1979 Argosy Minuet 7.3 Metre
Hailey
, Idaho
Join Date: Jul 2002
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My wife and I discussed this some recently. I'm ready to start looking for some land now to setup the Argosy for a somewhat permanent vacation spot. She's not ready yet.
But, $5 per gallon is about where I would draw the line.
Scott
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06-05-2008, 01:04 PM
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Rivet Master
2011 34' Classic
Westchester Cty.NY
, / Miami FL
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Ingrid has been stationary since her husband passed away more than 15 years ago. she "full times" 4 months a year in one place. Gas costs, excluding airfare, have no direct impact. she has absolutely no desire to live in any other environment other than her Airstream.
As for myself, I hope someday to go on the road. I hope it will be in an Airstream but current quality issues on new models has me more worried than the price of fuel. I also hope that the powers that be, take this time to take Airstream to what Wally would have built with the technology of today and the care of yesterday. To borrow a slogan, "Quality is job one".
My answer to the question would be that as long as the pleasure of Airstreaming exceeds the pain of the cost of fuel, I'll still do it.
Overall, I think most folks feel the same. It may make for less spontaneous traveling and a lot more planning but maybe that's not such a bad thing.
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06-05-2008, 01:29 PM
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Roadtrain O--O~(--ooo--)
2000 34' Limited
1979 31' Excella 500
Miamisburg
, Ohio
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Quit is pretty strong. We usually take a big trip once a year, this year it's 5500 miles, the increased cost of fuel had to be planned for, originally figured at 1450.00 now is 2030.00 but it is less than the cost of a round trip air ticket. On a 3 week vacation 600.00 is doable
I imagine future trips may not be as often or as long but it's some thing we love to do and will probably just budget for it (fuel) and go anyway.
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06-05-2008, 01:47 PM
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Rivet Master
1993 34' Limited
Melbourne Florida
, Springfield Ohio
Join Date: Nov 2006
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I decided to permanently park my Airstream at Land Yacht Harbor in Melbourne Florida and drive back and forth from Ohio several times a year and spend winters in Florida. My car gets 32MPG and this arrangement supports my budget nicely. I still am able to be around other fellow Airstreamers and enjoy the Airstream lifestyle.
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06-05-2008, 02:01 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Hernando
, Mississippi
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 759
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Much higher than $5.00/gal. We may shorten trips, but will NOT stay at home. I didn't finally retire at age 60 to stay home. We bought the airstream to use and enjoy.
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06-05-2008, 02:11 PM
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Rivet Master
1975 29' Ambassador
San Antonio
, Texas
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How much was the price of gasoline 35 years ago? Sorry, but I wasn't driving yet in those days. But it seems like an interesting ratio: the price 35 years ago vis-a-vis $5 bucks per gallon. Comparing the ratio then to today's ratio (current price vis-a-vis quite 'streaming price) would be quite revealing regarding how much we're willing to go today to continue 'streaming. Any economists out there?
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06-05-2008, 02:33 PM
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Cyclist
2007 28' International CCD
Windermere
, Florida
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If it reaches $10 gallon we'll shorten our trips.
Tom
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06-05-2008, 03:18 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
St. Catharines
, South Western Ontario
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It is sacrilege to permanently park an Airstream. These things were made to be in motion!
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06-05-2008, 04:18 PM
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Rivet Master
1975 29' Ambassador
San Antonio
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 517
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$40 buck a gallon before I quit!
Andy makes an interesting point about folks back then versus today. Let's say gasoline was .50 cents a gallon 35 years ago. According to the mentioned poll folks in 1973 were willing to pay 10 times that or $5 bucks a gallon in order to continue Airstreaming. At $4 bucks a gallon today, using the same logic, would folks be willing to pay 10 times that or $40 bucks a gallon in order to continue pulling their Airstreams!?
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06-05-2008, 04:25 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1963 26' Overlander
Danville
, Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2008
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i'll vote for five, especially since i have access to lots of family with free parking, however, we have already cut back on some travel plans
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06-05-2008, 04:31 PM
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E Pluribus Aluminus
2008 34' Classic S/O
1967 22' Safari
2005 30' Classic
Land Of Enchantment
, New Mexico
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Quote:
Originally Posted by monocoque
How much was the price of gasoline 35 years ago? Sorry, but I wasn't driving yet in those days. But it seems like an interesting ratio: the price 35 years ago vis-a-vis $5 bucks per gallon. Comparing the ratio then to today's ratio (current price vis-a-vis quite 'streaming price) would be quite revealing regarding how much we're willing to go today to continue 'streaming. Any economists out there?
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Dang! 35 years ago, I was driving... Doesn't seem that long ago until you actually see it in writing... I can tell you though, $5 bought alot more then than it buys now...
Took a cross country road trip with a band I was in back then and remember paying $.24 a gallon in Salina, Kansas... gas war going on between 2 stations on opposite corners. Never paid more than 30 cents a gallon on the tour... matter of fact, I'm thinking our main concerns on that trip was the cost of beer... and other kinds of, uh... smokable products...
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06-05-2008, 05:05 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Placerville
, California
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I am 70 and retired. Lynn is 60 and retired. We say since we have not received any assurance that we will be able to enjoy our convertible and Trade Wind in the 'next' life we are going to keep on 'streaming'. We told our kids that we are deducting today's expenses from their inheritance. Our daughter's reply to that is, "That's okay, my brother and I are only expecting a whole lot of camping equipment anyway.
Neil
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06-05-2008, 05:14 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2013 27' Flying Cloud
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Livingston
, Texas
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An article on CNN today reports large amounts of farm diesel fuel is being stolen around Bakersfield, California. They think it's being sold to truckers. Wonder if there is going to be a fuel black market.
Diesel thieves wreak havoc on California farmers - CNN.com
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06-05-2008, 06:38 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
1972 31' Sovereign
High Springs
, Florida
Join Date: May 2002
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We camp in about a 3 hour radius these days, which is about 10-12 gallons of diesel one way, or about $100 for fuel at today's prices. That's about what we did, when we lived in Ohio, when diesel was a buck or two back then.
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06-05-2008, 06:53 PM
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Ham KI4HJX
1982 27' Excella
1970 23' Safari
Franklin
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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I just got back from WV went up and pulled back a Safari, diesel was right at 5$ a gallon. So it is already a reality for me. We will pull over to Elkmont campground this weekend to see the firefly show fule will cost about 70$ but we will have a great time with the grand kids. If fule gets to costly we will stay close to home but will continue to camp. Food prices are starting to hurt more than fule!
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