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Old 09-13-2008, 09:22 PM   #1
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Just got a '54 Cruiser- replacing floor

Just got our first airstream 8-1-08,1954 25'cruiser,we are very excited about cleaning her up and getting her back on the road.I'm about 3/4 through gutting it,seems like I have been drilling rivets out for quite a while, the floor is in pretty tough shape,I have been trying to find tips on the best way to get the bolts out of the bottom of the wall.Hopefully the frame is not in to bad of shape.I do not have a good way to lift the body off so I was hoping to slip the new plywood.
Thanks for any tips
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Old 09-13-2008, 09:50 PM   #2
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Take Time To Read Others Efforts

Sweet trailer, Congratulations.
You can slip in new plywood but it is difficult.
I suggest spending time with the Search option and reading through the restoration forums.
There is a lot to it and getting in over your head is not recommended.
Noting meanwhile that good work and thoughtful determined effort surely will be rewarded.
Nice pictures.
Please post more.
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Old 09-13-2008, 10:43 PM   #3
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Hi Tinman! Welcome to the world of AS trailers! There are many of us going through the same process right now. I'll be doing the shell on routine as you are... see the $600 dollar Tradewind thread I've started, as well as Frank's Annaluminum thread for the completed deal. My bolts just broke off,,, and I found that using a holedrill around the elevator bolts in the floor make the process faster. 2333 is doing a shell off, 64 trotteralt, as is many others... just search the current threads.
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Old 09-14-2008, 04:07 AM   #4
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Boy oh boy there sure are a lot of 54's showing up lately. Wish one would show up in my yard...
I suggest that you read like crazy. There are countless threads on this forum on how to do a shell on floor replacement. Read about how others have done it and you will come up with a plan for how to do it yourself. If you can lift the shell, that is going to give you the best results because you are able to work the entire frame much easier.
I did my project as a shell on and only have done the rear half of the trailer as of this season. Come mid october I will be doing the front half. My blog shows all the things I did, some of them right and some of them wrong. Please feel free to contact me with anything you have questions about. The blog starts with my purchase of Anna, goes on to the realization that she has serious issues, and shows how I went about resolving them. Hopefully there will be something there that might help you in coming up with a plan.
As I said earlier, read a bunch of blogs (excellent ones linked on my blog), read a bunch of restoration threads here on this forum, and do not be afraid. You can do it.
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Old 09-14-2008, 06:19 AM   #5
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Thanks for the quick response, it's hard to leave the computer to go work on her,I've been reading all this stuff since I picked up the trailer.I usually work with galvanized steel for work but now think I am addicted to aluminum.I actually bought a second trailer a week after the first for parts,kind of sad,that one is a 57 overlander.It was a hunting trailer in northern wis. and a tre had fallen on the front dome.I pushed out the dent from the inside,so it is basically the right shape now.I,m not sure what I will do with that one,for now its my storage shed for the cruiser interior.I will try to get some pictues of that one up soon.My brother said to scrap it but I don't think I could ever do that.
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You can replace the floor and attempt a shell-off, just be realistic. Some crazy nut-ball on here just did it in like 22 days!!!! 64TrotterAtl Probably drinking gallons of Monster Energy drink, completely ignoring his friends and family, and he didn't appear to run into any hang-ups. While we all are amazed, his case of alluminitis is far advanced as most of us are many months or years into our "shell-offs".

A couple hints:

- Read a number of shell-off threads to get an idea of how it's done.

- Imperative you read one that is the same year as your trailer. Belly pan attachments, layering of shells, and C or U Channels are specific to your trailer year and if you need to know what you have before you start the process.

The rest is a piece of cake. But one that's 54 years old and hard as rock.
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Old 09-14-2008, 06:32 PM   #7
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Well it was kind of a dreary day hear in Roberts wis.lots of rain(which lets me see how many leaks there are by the windows and roof vents),I didn't get to much airstream time today 2-3 hours but I did get a few more panels off inside.I keep looking at the bottom of the walls and see all the screws and bolts covered in tar and think it will probably be better to take the shell off and just make new U channel. like some of you have said a little extra work now will make it better in the end.I did get a few more pictures today and I did get the bathroom out,it must have been put in place before the shell was put on,the aluminum liner is all one unit and would not fit thru the door.The original has been painted a few times,plus has quite a bit of corrosion, so I think I am going to make a new one,a little bigger but the same design.I added a couple of pictures of #2 with tree damage,like I said not sure what I will do with it,I originally bought it for parts but I think it could be made into a nice workshop or bunkhouse?

Well till tomorrow
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Old 09-18-2008, 09:10 PM   #8
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I got a few more rivets drilled out this week in between other projects and a little more liner taken down.I hope to have the shell braced and off this weekend if all goes well.
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My 53 had the same bath. I believe it was fabricated inside the trailer and then affixed to the wall. I have decided to go with a new bath as well, and junked mine getting it out. Scrap aluminum is running hight right now at least. I also plan on not having a wet bath in this trailer and will go with toilet only.

Keep it up, and feel free to check my blog located in my sig since I am doing a floor replacement as well.

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Old 09-19-2008, 07:39 AM   #10
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Steve,your pictures in your blog look very famillier it was a bit of a chalenge to get the big cieling panels off,I used the plywood end panels from my bathroom as temp. supports as I finished drilling rivets,that worked well.I am going to pick up new 3/4 plywood this week and get it sealed with marine varnish on all sides before installing.It work be nice to take a couple of weeks off work to just hit this project
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Does anyone remember a few weeks ago someone was advertising a '53 Cruiser they were parting out? I can't find it now, but it would make restoration much easier if you could get original exterior replacement panels.
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I bought some parts from that guy. I wanted to buy more, but he has not responded to emails since his stuff went on ebay.

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Old 09-21-2008, 07:55 PM   #13
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Inside cleaned out

Finished cleaning out inside today,i was hoping to get the shell off but didn't quite get there.i got about half the rivets on the outside drilled for pulling the top off,hopefully by the end of the week.
Next remove the old floor

remove belly pan

clean up the frame

locate tanks

rebuild or replace axel

install new marine treated floor

insulate floor,reinstall belly pan

i want to try to keep all wiring and plumbing above floor and accessible
i've been thinking of installing radiant heat under the floor,we're putting lightweight wood floors in the center walking area and front dining area.my wife likes to keep her toes warm.
I would like to get it this far before winter so i can concentrate on the inside.
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Tinman,

Did you drill all the rivets out in your 13 panel endcap? I ask because the pic above shows 2 sections still attached. The endcap is a single piece that is attached to the rib in only a few spots. It should all come out in one piece like below.

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great project!!!
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Old 09-22-2008, 05:09 AM   #16
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Steve,Thanks to guys like you posting your info. i had read about that.I met a guy recently that did drill all of them,that would be a real bummer I think all I heard last night for a while was whine of a drill after spending about 4 hours strait drilling.Its been real addicting reading everyone's adventures on here.There is a 26' 1955 unit for sale in new york('55 Airstream 26' LOA.) that I like the layout in,I want to keep one side pretty open.After all this work it would be pretty cool if it was worth that much(maybe in new york). I like the wood stove idea,I've seen that in a couple. Hopefully my cruiser will be usable by next spring.
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Its is great reading the replies from all over the country.I've never participated in any kind of websight like this.
Thanks Doug
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Tinman - Great to find your thread. I just got home from a road trip of 3,600 miles round trip from central Texas to Williston, No. Dakota to pick up my 1st vintage - yet another '54 Cruiser!!! The photos on eBay were good, but deceptive in that the first full day home I found serious floor rot under the front windows and along the entry step. I've taken out the cabinet under the front windows amd asscoated sofa/bed & the cabinet that abuts the stove. Next I'll remove all the carpet. I already pulled out most of the front carpet and will strip it on down the hall way to the rear under where the side-ways bed used to be. All that should tell me how much sub-flooring I'll have to pull & re-do.

Even with the above sad discovery and the time, sweat & expense to repair - I remain totally exccited (do the kids still say "ramped"?) to get deep into this project.

I make all the necessary apologies for hyjacking your thread. I have no excuse except an overabundance of joy & not being able to share that happiness here on the Forums I fine so very important, a news / learning experience without parallel - and populated with the very best of what an Airstreamer is supposed to be.

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Wow Jim thats a long drive for a camper,I thought I had alumititus bad,I only had to go 400 miles RT for my cruiser.I found out later that I think I got a pretty good deal $850.00 with gas.The guy I bought it from said he paid $400.00 at a garage sale a couple months back,he was going to use it for a hunting shack in northern Minnesota.I got real lucky getting it,My daughter and her soon to be husband went to get it,we decided on this hole deal in the matter of about 30min.I didn't even think about the fact of this thing being road worthy,but it made the trip without to much trouble.The lites shorted out in the last few miles.I would like to see your pictures,good luck with your project.
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Yes indeed, I think we would ALL like to see pictures of Jim's new purchase...

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