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Old 12-15-2003, 09:26 PM   #1
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Value of 1972 Argosy trailer 20'

I just found a 1972 20' argosy trailer for sale. It is missing the door, and needs a paint job. It is in fairly restorable condition, otherwise. I can pick it up for $750.00 Does anyone know what this trailer is worth? Any advice would be appreciated.
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Old 12-15-2003, 09:39 PM   #2
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On a different thread a bone yard door was quoted in the 650 range complete. If you can get it for 750.00 and afford a door to make it watertight I would say do it. How are the axles?
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Old 12-15-2003, 09:45 PM   #3
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It seems to be in all around fair condition. I don't know exactly how to tell if the axles have problems. The person who owns it is homeless, with no car to pull it. Someone stole the door, and it is going to be towed to a wrecking yard, if I don't buy it. It is dirty, but no noticable damage. I figure in the worst case, I can keep it for parts.
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Old 12-16-2003, 06:23 AM   #4
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Value of 1972 Argosy trailer 20'

Greetings Lovecraft!

The Argosy 20 was the predecessor of the Minuet 6.0 Metre. While it is virtually the same length as the Minuet 6.0 Metre, it is wider - - the same width as the rest of the Argosy line. So far as I have heard, at least with the earliest of the Argosy 20s, the floor was the "Airstream/Argosy" standard issue plywood rather than the composite Aluminum that would appear in the Minuet 6.0 Metre as well as some of the later Argosy 20s according to reports that I have read from a variety of owners.

In establishing a value, you might consult the following:

Vintage Airstream/Argosy Price VS Condition

The biggest concern, in my estimation, would be overcoming the obstacle of locating a replacement door. I don't know whether there were any differences between the door used on the Argosy 20 and other trailers in the line - - there are so many small nuances in the Minuets that I would be a little suspicious.

At this point, exclusive of painting, I have invested about $6,000 in the restoration of my '78 Minuet utilizing primarily professional services. The prices that I have been seeing for very nice original or nicely refurbished Minuet 6.0 Metre/Argosy 20s have been running between $5,500 and $6,500. When I purchased my Minuet in 2002, I paid just a little more than the price on the one you are considering - - the differential being approximately what I suspect that a used replacement door would likely run.

Good luck with your investigation!

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Old 12-16-2003, 06:40 AM   #5
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The person who owns it is homeless, with no car to pull it. Someone stole the door, and it is going to be towed to a wrecking yard, if I don't buy it.
That is one sad story.,

I think I would buy it just to help the poor fella out.

I am sure the door ended up at the local aluminum recycler, some bum probably got a bottle of T-Bird out of that deal.

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On edit; maybe the seller sold the door for a bottle of T-Bird?
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Old 12-16-2003, 08:54 AM   #6
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Thanks for all the input. I'm going to go ahead and pick it up. If it's restorable, I'll go that route, if not, I'll part it out.
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Old 12-16-2003, 02:12 PM   #8
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1972 was the first year for Argosy trailers.

There is another member of this forum that owns a 1972 Argosy 20, so you're in good company here!

If you get this one restored, what a story you'll have to tell about it!

Good luck searching for the door.

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Old 12-16-2003, 05:15 PM   #9
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1972 was the first year for Argosy trailers.

There is another member of this forum that owns a 1972 Argosy 20, so you're in good company here!

If you get this one restored, what a story you'll have to tell about it!

Good luck searching for the door.

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oh, hi! That's me!
I paid $700.00 for mine, including a door, but I would have paid more for it if it had been asked, that's all they wanted.
Any questions you have about your trailer, give me a holler, because I have probably already been there, done that with mine.
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Check that VIN # could be an Old one ?
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Check that VIN # could be an Old one ?
It would be nice if the VIN # was lower than mine... It's lonely at the top...

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Ok, I'll go take another look at it, and get back to you with the details.
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Old 12-17-2003, 01:37 PM   #15
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Here's the detailed story....

The trailer is parked in an industrial area of San Francisco, where a lot of homeless people live. There are also a lot of people living in cardboard boxes, old trailers, tents, etc. I drove by and saw the argosy, it has no license plates, just a note saying that the plates were stolen, and please don't tow. The door is missing, and a blanket is hung in it's place. I knocked, but no one answered. I asked a few homeless people nearby if they knew who it belonged to, but they had no idea.
The next day, I drove by, and there was a wheelchair sitting just outside the entry. I went up, and knocked again, and a 70 something year old woman answered. She told me she had just been approved for section 8 housing, and needed to sell the trailer when she finds a home. She has a medical condition, and whenever she goes into the hospital, other homeless people break into the trailer and steal her belongings. So far, they have taken the door, and one of the ceiling lights, along with some of her personal items. She said I could buy the trailer now, if I could put her up in a hotel for a month. I offered $750, but she wanted that plus hotel money, which I can not afford right now.

So, it's a pretty sad story, I'll keep everyone posted as it unfolds...
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I dunno LoveCraft,

Sounds like these people are trying to take you for a sucker.

I have heard stories like this before. Don't let their hard luck story get to you, besides, I doubt if this person even has the title.

$750 plus a months worth of hotels?? Last time I was in San Fran even a dumpy hotel was close to $100 a day. If I were you I'd just move on.

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I'm afraid Chas may be right.

If you really want to follow up on this though ask her who her caseworker is and contact them and inquire about her status with section 8 housing. I assume her caseworker should be aware of her assets, which should include the Argosy. Maybe if you are lucky the caseworker will be helpful.

I realize caseworkers like so many social workers are kept very busy and they aren't required to help you research the Argosy.

Good luck.

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I wasn't going to pay the hotel, regardless. She isn't pushing for me to get her the hotel, she would prefer I wait a month for her to move into her apartment.
If you saw the area where the trailer is, you might change your mind. It's filled with homeless people pushing shopping carts full of recycleables. I don't think they would hesitate to grab anything aluminum they could get their hands on. You might be right about the title, I'm sure this lady does own the trailer, but, judging from her lifestyle, the title is probably lost. If the trailer had a for sale sign on it, I would be suspicious, but, I am the one who approached her.
If I can pick the trailer up with a minimum of hassles, and at a decent price, I figure I can't really lose.
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