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Old 10-23-2011, 04:40 PM   #1
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Question EARLY '60s ARGOSY?

i just found, what i think is an early 60s, but i'm sure it's an argosy. 2 axle, about 16, to 20 ft long. anyone have a guess as to what it actually is, it's in POOR shape, to me, scrap metal value, and i can get it. don't have any pics, yet, due to camera failure, but i want to know if it is worth messing with. i have seen worse on the classified site, but it will take alot to get it home,( 2 miles on pavement). any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated
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There is no way to tell what you have with out a picture or a serial number. I do not believe that there were any Argosy made in the 60's, you can rule that out. The first Argosy was made in around 1971.
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Old 10-23-2011, 05:07 PM   #3
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EARLY 60s ARGOSY?

Greetings lookin1!

Welcome to the Forums and the world of Vintage Airstreams and Argosys!

My research indicates that the Argosy was introduced in 1971 as a 1972 model. My understanding is that all VINS identified first-year Argosy travel trailers as 1972 models. The Argosy motorhome according to my understanding was introduced in 1974 as a 1975 model with coach serial numbers identifying all of the first-model-year Argosy motorhomes as 1975 models. The Square Argosy travel trailer according to my understanding was introduced in 1984 as a 1985 model with the VIN identifying all first-year Square Argosy travel trailers as 1985 models. So far as I have been able to determine, these are the only three times that Airstream has utilized the Argosy name to identify its RV products.

Almost anything is possible in terms of what Airstream has produced over the years. Airstream may have utilized the Argosy name to identify a "custom" coach produced for a particular customer at some point in time. The Wally Byam Traveler is another possibility that comes to mind, but it would be a "canned ham" type of coach rather than a rounded body of the more typical Airstream production. With some of the unusual things that owners have done with their Airstreams over the years, an owner of a 1950s or 1960s Airstream may have painted their coach and attached Argosy badges at some point in time.

Good luck with your investigation!

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P.S.: The shortest Argosy coach of which I am aware is the Minuet 6.0 Metre. The 6.0 Metre Minuet measures just short of 20' from the tip of the tongue to the rear edge of the bumper. My understanding is the Argosy 20 is just over 20' in length. Beyond the two coaches close to the 20' length all other Argosy travel trailers were in excess of 20'.
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Old 10-24-2011, 04:25 AM   #4
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thanks for all the information. i'm going to take another look at it, but i'm sure i saw argosy on it, and there were some listings that were embedded into the side dating back from 1964 to 1969 on it, i'm guessing the travels it has been on. i'll get some cell phone pics of it
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Old 10-24-2011, 06:25 AM   #5
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Red face

just got back from looking again, need to get my headlites adjusted. it's an avion, but i did get a pic.
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Old 10-24-2011, 08:43 AM   #6
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Indeed!

You have indeed found a 60's Avion. Did you note the serial numbers? Here is a link to a website that will help you figure out exactly what year and model it is. Avion Travelcade Club Travel Former member Fifth Wheel Fleetwood Trailer Cayo RV Repairs Interesting Email Winona LakeIndiana Unit

The sticker on the front is from the Avion Travelcade Club, they traveled like the Airstream Caravan Trips. The other stickers will tell which trips it went on. I've included a photo of ours the day we brought it home.

Avions are definitely Airstream Kin and that one looks like it has been neglected for a long time. If you do decide to acquire it, depending on the inside, there are also Avion folks looking for parts to if you choose not to restore it (I am one of them ).

In addition to the above website, you can also check out SILVERAVION :: INDEX. There is a lot of great information, but a lot more on the forums and it all transitions well.

Good Luck on your decision.

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Old 10-25-2011, 04:23 AM   #7
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this one is definitely not for restoration. it is mostly stripped, but there are still some good parts. the plan is to get it home, blocked up, and looked over really good.then part it out. i'll keep everyone up on how it goes
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If the entrance door is in good shape I could use it, also the screen door. Let me know if it's any good and if you want to sell it.
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Ah ha!

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this one is definitely not for restoration. it is mostly stripped, but there are still some good parts. the plan is to get it home, blocked up, and looked over really good.then part it out. i'll keep everyone up on how it goes
Well, in that case please keep me in mind for parts. What year is it? I know a guy who would love all the clutch head screws. Me, I'm looking for drawer handles and closet door handles, so depending on the year, they may or may not match my '59. I also need an exterior access door or vent that is 14" x 25", depending if it's anondized or not, but I have a feeling it is. Hmmm... also, a bathroom vanity cabinet door that is not louvered.

Keep us up to speed what you do with her!

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Old 10-26-2011, 04:29 AM   #10
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looked again, yesterday, noted that it is a (28-t)? looked at the door, the outer door has some damage on the hinge edge where a piano hinge has been somewhat installed, the screen door looks really good, considering the whole picture. there is still a little bit of the interior left, but it still is in really rough shape. i'll check on the cabinetry, and access doors.
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A 28-T... That means it's a 28' Travelcader which would put it at 1967 or newer. The darkened windows also means it's a later model.

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Old 10-26-2011, 07:07 AM   #12
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it may be a t-20, it was really hard to tell. hopefully, i'll have it on site here, at my shop soon, then i can really get to know it.
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I don't think you have a T-20. The number refers to the length of the trailer and you've got way more trailer than we do .

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Old 10-26-2011, 08:09 AM   #14
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i finalized the deal earlier this morning, and will be moving it this weekend. the current owner is at the outer banks of n.c., and won't be in til then. doing a little trading, as well as a little money, so things should be pretty cheap on that one. looking to start my own recycling of parts, and hopefully find some parts for mine, soon
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Exterior doesn't look bad. Any more pics??
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Old 10-26-2011, 02:38 PM   #16
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have a few still in my phone, signal dropped out, so i have to wait to load them. i'll have more later. it is a t-28, but it also has listings from 1964 on the front curbside nose, so it has to be at least that old. i think the serial # is 28048, but all that will be cleared up soon. the towing co. will be delivering it saturday afternoon, due to 4 flats, and tongue. walked through it, and the only soft spot i found was, of course, at the door. overhead cabinetry is still there, and in fair shape.
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So...

I'm curious to know what you found out when you got your Avion delivered. Is it as bad as you expected? Better? I'm hoping you'll post more photos .

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Old 10-31-2011, 04:26 AM   #18
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my rollback and driver had lots of calls this past weekend, so it didn't make it, but it is coming this week. when you're working out deals like this, some trading is involved to save money, so time becomes secondary, but for some adventurous individuals, this is a repairable unit. i'm not, due to not having the time. if wanted, it can be gotten pretty cheap, but bring your trailer, and it doesn't have a title, so it's a few parts, and scrap metal for me.

i even found a 57 a/s this weekend, but it got away before i could get there
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update; we'll be getting it about 11am this morning
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Old 11-01-2011, 04:43 AM   #20
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you never know what kind of treasures you'll find when you purchase something like this. we get it to the shop, and the 1st walk through nets a pair of leg-o-matic chairs in really good shape, a little dusting,& cleaning, and a very minor finish repair on one, and we have a pair. i have noticed that all the door & drawer hardware will clean up really well, too. there are some goodies to take from this one, but the running gear is really bad. no real frame underneath,tongue folded up, and just really bad shape under there.

if anyone is interested in any of this one, let me know what you are looking for, and we'll see if it is any good for you
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